Fiscal responsibility: suppose the govt "doesn't spend money it doesn't have."
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How about we stop the increase in spending year to year and just get to leveling off our deficit before we start talking about surpluses.
Who was pitching surpluses? I must have missed it.
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And DAMN, does she have the surplus.
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Interesting. Not one serious/solid response yet.
I find this interesting since repubs/conservs/right winers/anti-obamaites have been demanding the things that the OP actually questions.
If you have no idea what the possible consequences might be then why the hell do you complain so much? Why the hell are you demanding these things be done if you have no idea what the consequences might be?
This actually reminds me of the book The Ugly American. Americans become so obsessed over what they're against that they forget the big picture and what they were for.
Has this happened to the right wing? Have they ultimately, become so obsessed with being anti-Democrat/Obama that they've lost sight in what they're actually for?
I remember how in the 90s, Republicans were actually for a lot of the things that Democrats are for (like Obamacare, Indiv Mandate, etc). Yet, now that they're hell bent on being anti-Obama, now all of sudden they're against plans, policies, and programs that they either created or once supported just a few years ago.
Interesting.
I think ultimately it's far easier to shout CUT CUT CUT while ignoring the possible consequences of cutting. Cutting defense means putting soldiers, contractors, and those working in factories out of work (until they can find work in some other capacity). Cutting social programs has consequences. Cutting educators has consequences. Even cutting subsidies and tax cuts have consequences.
I find this interesting since repubs/conservs/right winers/anti-obamaites have been demanding the things that the OP actually questions.
If you have no idea what the possible consequences might be then why the hell do you complain so much? Why the hell are you demanding these things be done if you have no idea what the consequences might be?
This actually reminds me of the book The Ugly American. Americans become so obsessed over what they're against that they forget the big picture and what they were for.
Has this happened to the right wing? Have they ultimately, become so obsessed with being anti-Democrat/Obama that they've lost sight in what they're actually for?
I remember how in the 90s, Republicans were actually for a lot of the things that Democrats are for (like Obamacare, Indiv Mandate, etc). Yet, now that they're hell bent on being anti-Obama, now all of sudden they're against plans, policies, and programs that they either created or once supported just a few years ago.
Interesting.
I think ultimately it's far easier to shout CUT CUT CUT while ignoring the possible consequences of cutting. Cutting defense means putting soldiers, contractors, and those working in factories out of work (until they can find work in some other capacity). Cutting social programs has consequences. Cutting educators has consequences. Even cutting subsidies and tax cuts have consequences.
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I have a very good friend that invented thermoplastic (part of a team that did, that is) and he started a company that lines the highways of America with thermoplastic .. replacing paint. The plastic is more expensive but lasts 5x longer than paint. His company exploded. However, within a couple years of doing several interstates/highways, he got more orders for the same roadways .. and he knew they didn't need it for another 4 to 5 years, at least. He asked the reason and was told that the state or agencies will lose funding if they fall short of their alloted budget for improvements. They said, "just do it anyway." We're talking tens of millions of dollars ... for nothing, at all.
That is not a conservative/liberal thing, btw. Both are equally guilty. I'm talking about, we the people, demanding a much better government. There HAS to be a way of stopping all the nonsense.
This is my stance, I simply lack the intestinal fortitude to argue tax rates and such while ignoring the bigger problem.
That is not a conservative/liberal thing, btw. Both are equally guilty. I'm talking about, we the people, demanding a much better government. There HAS to be a way of stopping all the nonsense.
This is my stance, I simply lack the intestinal fortitude to argue tax rates and such while ignoring the bigger problem.
At this point, the wheels come off if noone steps in to increase MxV. Money has gotten to Karl Marx's financial shenanigans point where capital is destroying the market instead of contributing to it. The draw of capitalism is increasing living standards for all while protecting democracy. We have to pause and ask what's wrong when neither is happening & our entire ideology is shattered.
We can learn from Canada about financial regulation and from Japan about extreme & widespread wealth hording. The rightist notion that everyone should be a ultra-rich saver with independent wealth and the leftist notion that everyone deserves to retire and live off the young is a recipe for nothing short of tragedy. But that just my unhumble opinion (sorry for not learning it in college, PuKeAM).
I didn't go to college. Did I misunderstand another post? Haha, sobriety is making me senile.