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So Apple now has a patent on a rectangle

SiroMar said:
The jury's decision to award 1b+ to Apple is patently absurd(no pun intended). Clearly Apple did perfect the smartphone and tablet form factors, and many of their functions So did Ford when they perfected the car. I don't recall them suing others for implementing the steering wheel. Nor do I remember television companies suing each other over the volume nob. That's why we don't have cars with an ***-plate for steering, or TVs that require you to clap your feet to change the channel. Or, more realistically, only a single successful car and TV company (Apple's intention). If Apple continues to get its way, this is very bad news for consumers indeed. Additionally, Apple is messing with tech-culture. The tech industry has always operated with ideals of openness and cooperation, an outcome of the PC's inception in the counterculture movements of the 60s. This has given us a vibrant and fast evolving industry that enhanced our lives in countless ways. Microsoft used to be the thorn in the side of these ideals, and now Apple has taken its place.

So in summary. Go Google!
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Great post. While I'm here, I should mention that Apple lost in a patent case against Samsung in Japan today. So I guess not everyone is as clueless as the US.
 
SiroMar said:
I don't recall them suing others for implementing the steering wheel. Nor do I remember television companies suing each other over the volume nob.
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Patents expire, and there is usually more than one way to skin a cat.

Have you seen "Flash of Genius"? It's about the man who invented the intermittent wiper system, and his suit of Ford for infringing on his patent.
 
DutchJazzer said:
thats not exactly true.
you clearly have no understanding of the computer electronics business.
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You make a very good point. I never analysed it with that kind of depth. After all, I've only been an engineer at one of the biggest chip manufacturers on earth for a single decade. My experience can't compare to yours.
 
One Brow said:
Patents expire, and there is usually more than one way to skin a cat.

Have you seen "Flash of Genius"? It's about the man who invented the intermittent wiper system, and his suit of Ford for infringing on his patent.
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There are only very few intuitive or practical ways to interact with mobile technology. Such ridiculously generic design solutions, like pinch to zoom or swipe to unlock, should not be patentable.
 
SiroMar said:
There are only very few intuitive or practical ways to interact with mobile technology. Such ridiculously generic design solutions, like pinch to zoom or swipe to unlock, should not be patentable.
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If you have a way to objectify that standard, you could write a law for it.

Last I heard, there was still a patent out there for using Boolean algebra to control whether a cursor blinked or not on a screen. Whether it should be patentable or not, it was.
 
One Brow said:
If you have a way to objectify that standard, you could write a law for it.

Last I heard, there was still a patent out there for using Boolean algebra to control whether a cursor blinked or not on a screen. Whether it should be patentable or not, it was.
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You make a good point, of course. I think the biggest problem is having juries decide on such complex questions (the biggest, not only). I am not alone in thinking that the decision is unprecedented, unjustified, and really bad for consumers and competitors. This is the sentiment of the majority of observers in the industry.

Regardless of the correctness of this view, the patent system encourages litigiousness and underhanded tactics for eliminating competition. It is in need of reform.
 
SiroMar said:
You make a very good point. I never analysed it with that kind of depth. After all, I've only been an engineer at one of the biggest chip manufacturers on earth for a single decade. My experience can't compare to yours.
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a simple example.
look at the macbook air.
they kinda patented it the designa nd look of it.
but actually if you notice notebooks, the air(or thickness of the air was inevitable. since the first notebook/laptop al thats been happening is they have been getting thinner and lighter and thinner.
sometimes hp was the first to reach certain thinnes, than toshiba than sony.
sadly when apple reach the "air thinness" they started lawsuits about air "look alikes"
apple is kinda destroying the industry.
also tablets have been around since the 90's. the one thing apple did was make a tablet desirable for a large part of the public, in turn kinda helping the tablet market.

but yeah **** apple.
and **** steve jobs may his soul burn eternally in hell
 
Speaking of Apple, who is really copying who?

https://www.androidauthority.com/behold-samsungs-ipad-made-in-2006-21278/

Samsung made this in 2006:
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DutchJazzer said:
a simple example.
look at the macbook air.
they kinda patented it the designa nd look of it.
but actually if you notice notebooks, the air(or thickness of the air was inevitable. since the first notebook/laptop al thats been happening is they have been getting thinner and lighter and thinner.
sometimes hp was the first to reach certain thinnes, than toshiba than sony.
sadly when apple reach the "air thinness" they started lawsuits about air "look alikes"
apple is kinda destroying the industry.
also tablets have been around since the 90's. the one thing apple did was make a tablet desirable for a large part of the public, in turn kinda helping the tablet market.

but yeah **** apple.
and **** steve jobs may his soul burn eternally in hell
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I agree that Apple is hurting the industry. That was my whole point, which you would have known if you read past the first few words.
 
Patents are largely bullsh*t. Especially broad ones. Every day I become more convinced that each and every copyright law should be scrapped. And the idea of intellectual property constitutionally prohibited.
 
I myself own a cheap TF300 tablet
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now i dont trust google, so i have custom non tracking android.
and a playstore account under a spuedonym
 
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