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One Brow said:
Perhqaps I misunderstood your point. I thought you were saying people who dated based on personality were those who could not date the pretty women, but perhaps I misunderstood.
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That is not what I was saying. However, I was saying that, as a comparison, most better looking men would find personality slightly lower in the prerequisite dept as lesser looking men .. it was all said tongue-in-cheek so there's no need for a math/science war .. although I would undoubtedly win.
 
One Brow said:
In what way does that disagree with my statement that Values > Anything physical? Or, were you sying that in my case, it was accurate?
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Everyone is attracted by different things. But something has to catch your eye. Then you want to get to know them.
 
Stoked said:
Everyone is attracted by different things. But something has to catch your eye. Then you want to get to know them.
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That, I agree with. However, I think an eye being caught by a clever chess game, or by a work of art, or a beautiful rendition of Handel's chorus, is an eye seeing someone that valued the hard work and vision required to create such things.
 
PKM said:
That is not what I was saying. However, I was saying that, as a comparison, most better looking men would find personality slightly lower in the prerequisite dept as lesser looking men .. it was all said tongue-in-cheek so there's no need for a math/science war .. although I would undoubtedly win.
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Seriously disagree with you here. I am not extremely attractive by any means, but I'd consider myself half-decent. More importantly I try to dress well, which I imagine (or hope) bumps me up a little bit in whatever criteria that women use to judge a man's attractiveness . As a result, I have had history with some fairly attractive women (please, don't take this as me trying to come across as a stud or something)




Despite this, I am for-sure more picky with personalities in terms of girls than all of my other friends, without-question. Yes, including the ones who aren't as good looking as I am. I just turned down dating a 22 year old girl that my friends widely considered to be 'out of my league', simply because I could not get along with her on a personal level; and I just to cut things off instead of being an ***, and having a casual fling with her before calling it quits.


While I agree that less attractive men might be prone to settling for less attractive women (due to lack of confidence, having no desire to, what have you) I think that an individual's discretion on personality has nothing to do with his looks. But to each his own.

I for one am 120% sure that I am FARRRR more picky with personalities, than I am with looks. Obviously I have my preferences, but I'd rather date a girl who's 8/10 in terms of looks, and a 10/10 in personality, than vice versa.
 
One Brow said:
That, I agree with. However, I think an eye being caught by a clever chess game, or by a work of art, or a beautiful rendition of Handel's chorus, is an eye seeing someone that valued the hard work and vision required to create such things.
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So this is what happens when testosterone levels plummet.












I dont wanna grow up :(
 
dalamon said:
Seriously disagree with you here. I am not extremely attractive by any means, but I'd consider myself half-decent. More importantly I try to dress well, which I imagine (or hope) bumps me up a little bit in whatever criteria that women use to judge a man's attractiveness . As a result, I have had history with some fairly attractive women (please, don't take this as me trying to come across as a stud or something)




Despite this, I am for-sure more picky with personalities in terms of girls than all of my other friends, without-question. Yes, including the ones who aren't as good looking as I am. I just turned down dating a 22 year old girl that my friends widely considered to be 'out of my league', simply because I could not get along with her on a personal level; and I just to cut things off instead of being an ***, and having a casual fling with her before calling it quits.


While I agree that less attractive men might be prone to settling for less attractive women (due to lack of confidence, having no desire to, what have you) I think that an individual's discretion on personality has nothing to do with his looks. But to each his own.

I for one am 120% sure that I am FARRRR more picky with personalities, than I am with looks. Obviously I have my preferences, but I'd rather date a girl who's 8/10 in terms of looks, and a 10/10 in personality, than vice versa.
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Fair, and good on ya, but be fair/honest ... is what I said fair? Would MOST men not look at women the way I described?
 
dalamon said:
Seriously disagree with you here. I am not extremely attractive by any means, but I'd consider myself half-decent. More importantly I try to dress well, which I imagine (or hope) bumps me up a little bit in whatever criteria that women use to judge a man's attractiveness . As a result, I have had history with some fairly attractive women (please, don't take this as me trying to come across as a stud or something)




Despite this, I am for-sure more picky with personalities in terms of girls than all of my other friends, without-question. Yes, including the ones who aren't as good looking as I am. I just turned down dating a 22 year old girl that my friends widely considered to be 'out of my league', simply because I could not get along with her on a personal level; and I just to cut things off instead of being an ***, and having a casual fling with her before calling it quits.


While I agree that less attractive men might be prone to settling for less attractive women (due to lack of confidence, having no desire to, what have you) I think that an individual's discretion on personality has nothing to do with his looks. But to each his own.

I for one am 120% sure that I am FARRRR more picky with personalities, than I am with looks. Obviously I have my preferences, but I'd rather date a girl who's 8/10 in terms of looks, and a 10/10 in personality, than vice versa.
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Wish I would have learned this as a teenager. /lost opportunities

We used to describe Diaz, young Meg Ryan, and really young Berrymore as cute not gorgeous. I'll take cute with a personality over gorgeous any day, and over gorgeous with a personality twice on sunday.
 
PKM said:
Fair, and good on ya, but be fair/honest ... is what I said fair? Would MOST men not look at women the way I described?
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Depends what you mean by most.

To look at women in the way that you described would be stupid, IMO. As a result, to agree with your statement, I would have to believe that most men are by and large quite, well, stupid. So it all comes down to what one's perception of the typical man is.
 
franklin said:
Wish I would have learned this as a teenager. /lost opportunities

We used to describe Diaz, young Meg Ryan, and really young Berrymore as cute not gorgeous. I'll take cute with a personality over gorgeous any day, and over gorgeous with a personality twice on sunday.
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Pretty faces + great personalities are the bomb man, seriously. Nothing makes my knees buckle more. A good voice is simply the cherry on top.
 
dalamon said:
Depends what you mean by most.

To look at women in the way that you described would be stupid, IMO. As a result, to agree with your statement, I would have to believe that most men are by and large quite, well, stupid. So it all comes down to what one's perception of the typical man is.
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So that's a yes.
 
my wife is ****ing hot. im pretty sure she has a decent personality too. but she is ****ing hot for sure.
 
Its gotta be *** first because it dont matter how good her personailty is, if her *** is so big its a mental distraction. I cant even hear what a girl is saying if she has a big ***. All I can think about is, what the **** am I going to do with that thing. At that point we might as well just be friends. Cause whats the point?
 
Hack said:
Its gotta be *** first because it dont matter how good her personailty is, if her *** is so big its a mental distraction. I cant even hear what a girl is saying if she has a big ***. All I can think about is, what the **** am I going to do with that thing. At that point we might as well just be friends. Cause whats the point?
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your problem is that you're thinking too hard!!!!


at any rate Stoked, CONGRATULATIONS and best wishes for a wonderful day and beautiful life together
 
I think this argument relies on the assumption that there is a universal standard for attractiveness, which there is not.

I can appreciate that Super-Stud Man Heroes like PKM and Dalamon, who can probably have any woman they choose, might consider their preferences the accepted standard. And they probably are, within their peer group.

But is it possible that there are simply differences in what people prefer, or find attractive, and that those differences are not necessarily corollary to their own appeal or capacity to woo?
 
Bronco70 said:
I think this argument relies on the assumption that there is a universal standard for attractiveness, which there is not.

I can appreciate that Super-Stud Man Heroes like PKM and Dalamon, who can probably have any woman they choose, might consider their preferences the accepted standard. And they probably are, within their peer group.

But is it possible that there are simply differences in what people prefer, or find attractive, and that those differences are not necessarily corollary to their own appeal or capacity to woo?
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Some of the arguements yes. Mine is that it is not all about personality. Looks ARE important. What each person likes in looks varies adn that is cool and all. But something has to catch your eye and make you want to get to know them more.
 
But what if you get into a relationship with someone you've known for a long time? Not someone you see across a room and want to get to know, someone you've known your entire life, for instance.
 
Gameface said:
But what if you get into a relationship with someone you've known for a long time? Not someone you see across a room and want to get to know, someone you've known your entire life, for instance.
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There are no absolutes. That has happened and will happen again.
 
Stoked said:
There are no absolutes. That has happened and will happen again.
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Right, and in that situation you may find yourself genuinely attracted to someone you don't find particularly attractive in a purely physical sense. Same with One Brow saying he was more attracted to the girls in the Chess Club. He didn't have to approach these girls in a bar or something, he interacted with them in the Chess Club and became attracted based on those interactions. The notion that you're gonna find people attractive based on your ability to get "hot" women doesn't always apply.
 
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