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9 out of the 15 players on the roster are shooting career lows from the field.....

dipship31

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The list of Jazzmen currently shooting at a career low FG%:

-Burks
-Evans
-Favors
-Foye
-Hayward
-Jefferson
-Kanter
-Millsap
-Tinsley

Obviously ones like Burks, Evans, and Kanter don't matter as much since their young and a small sample size, but still it's pretty unbelievable to think that these 9 players are currently shooting worse than they've ever shot in their careers. Throw in that we've played 9 road games to 6 home games and I'd say our 8-7 start is actually very impressive. If the law of averages kick in for a lot of these guys we could go on a nice little run.
 
There's the law of averages, and then there's the law of veterans (for which myself and Tyrone Corbin are heavy proselyters). This team gonna rule soon.
 
Ty had his off-season. How many more threes is Tinsley going to hit the rest of the year and save our poor offense? Why do you think Foye gets so many minutes? Because Tys praying he will make it rain from 3 land because Ty has absolutely no idea how to run an offense or a decent defense for that matter. Why do you think there is such a relation between our 3 pt shooting between our wins and losses?
 
The list of Jazzmen currently shooting at a career low FG%:

-Burks
-Evans
-Favors
-Foye
-Hayward
-Jefferson
-Kanter
-Millsap
-Tinsley

Obviously ones like Burks, Evans, and Kanter don't matter as much since their young and a small sample size, but still it's pretty unbelievable to think that these 9 players are currently shooting worse than they've ever shot in their careers. Throw in that we've played 9 road games to 6 home games and I'd say our 8-7 start is actually very impressive. If the law of averages kick in for a lot of these guys we could go on a nice little run.

This is normally what happens on Greg Popovich's teams too. Players come into his system and just struggle to get wide open shots. The Jazz's offense has been crisp with very little 1on1 stuff. Take last night's game for example. We had a whole bunch of wide open jams because people were making the extra pass. We shot over 70% in the first quarter because of our awesome offense...oh, wait, that was Denver.
 
So what you're saying is Corbin sucks more than we even thought?

C'mon man, you know that Coach can't shoot it for them. :)

This is normally what happens on Greg Popovich's teams too. Players come into his system and just struggle to get wide open shots. The Jazz's offense has been crisp with very little 1on1 stuff. Take last night's game for example. We had a whole bunch of wide open jams because people were making the extra pass. We shot over 70% in the first quarter because of our awesome offense...oh, wait, that was Denver.

This season is taking a serious toll on some of you. You know, projecting your anger onto TyCo incessantly is not healthy. I think you should quit the addiction for 6-7 months and get healthy again.
 
I think the low percentages are because of the offense(...errr the lack offense) that the Jazz are running this year. The Jazz look like they have no clue what they are trying to do on offense. I thought our offense looked more organized last year.
 
This season is taking a serious toll on some of you. You know, projecting your anger onto TyCo incessantly is not healthy. I think you should quit the addiction for 6-7 months and get healthy again.

Amen.

Ive been preaching the same thing.
 
This season is taking a serious toll on some of you. You know, projecting your anger onto TyCo incessantly is not healthy. I think you should quit the addiction for 6-7 months and get healthy again.

Good idea! I'll do that starting sometime in late April/May until October. In the meantime, my frustration with the overall mediocrity of our team (players, coaches etc.), which is quickly blooming into apathy and resignation, will be interrupted by the glimmer of potential that might come from Favors and Kanter.
 
This season is taking a serious toll on some of you. You know, projecting your anger onto TyCo incessantly is not healthy. I think you should quit the addiction for 6-7 months and get healthy again.

For the record, I am just playing around and have no angst or ill-feelings for Ty. Life is to short to hate, unless its Torrey Ellis, he can eat roaches.
 
For the record, I am just playing around and have no angst or ill-feelings for Ty. Life is to short to hate, unless its Torrey Ellis, he can eat roaches.

I figured you all were messing around. Blaming Ty for Haywierd, Millsap, & Marvin slumps is obviously silliness as they've been missing wide open looks, Favors can be attributed to being given way more leash this year (something everyone wanted so it would be stupid to bitch at TyCo for doing what we all wanted), Foye is shooting 45 freaking % from three on high volume, Burks & Evans haven't played enough minutes to be put on any list, and Tinsley has never been able to hit his *** with a handful of wheat (truly a shame as he'd be HOF caliber with a good shot). Did I miss anyone? Oh, Jefferson, who started ridiculously slow and obviously as in 100% guaranteed obvious will not shoot 42% for long.
 
Jefferson got to the line and we gutted out a tough win. I'm enjoying things for a couple days.
 
I think the low percentages are because of the offense(...errr the lack offense) that the Jazz are running this year. The Jazz look like they have no clue what they are trying to do on offense. I thought our offense looked more organized last year.

This is exactly correct. You see it in the other numbers, too: 15th in Assists (up from 23rd before Tinsley took over); 24th Eff FG%; 18th TS%. There's one easy takeaway from this: We get very few easy shots every night (as opposed to Denver who had like 25 easy shots last night). We're beating teams with offensive rebounding and the break which makes our overall offensive efficiency look pretty good. But our halfcourt offense is awful.

Fun factoid in case anyone was wondering: We currently rank 3rd in the NBA with 17.1 ppg on the break. Atlanta and Milwaukee are 1 and 2.
 
The list of Jazzmen currently shooting at a career low FG%:

-Burks
-Evans
-Favors
-Foye
-Hayward
-Jefferson
-Kanter
-Millsap
-Tinsley

Obviously ones like Burks, Evans, and Kanter don't matter as much since their young and a small sample size, but still it's pretty unbelievable to think that these 9 players are currently shooting worse than they've ever shot in their careers. Throw in that we've played 9 road games to 6 home games and I'd say our 8-7 start is actually very impressive. If the law of averages kick in for a lot of these guys we could go on a nice little run.
I think this is a good example of how pathetic our offense is. If we actually ran an NBA quality offense maybe these players could get good looks at the basket.
 
I think the low percentages are because of the offense(...errr the lack offense) that the Jazz are running this year. The Jazz look like they have no clue what they are trying to do on offense. I thought our offense looked more organized last year.

Saw this after my post. Great post.
 
Jefferson got to the line and we gutted out a tough win. I'm enjoying things for a couple days.

Too make it even better, I came within two feet of Millsap today in the human world. I'm high on jazz life ever since ( shameless homer & one upper noted).


This is exactly correct. You see it in the other numbers, too: 15th in Assists (up from 23rd before Tinsley took over); 24th Eff FG%; 18th TS%. There's one easy takeaway from this: We get very few easy shots every night (as opposed to Denver who had like 25 easy shots last night). We're beating teams with offensive rebounding and the break which makes our overall offensive efficiency look pretty good. But our halfcourt offense is awful.

Fun factoid in case anyone was wondering: We currently rank 3rd in the NBA with 17.1 ppg on the break. Atlanta and Milwaukee are 1 and 2.

I respect your input a lot but can't wrap my mind around your constant m.o. aimed toward TyCo. Are there any actual specifics you'd like to see changed? The way I see it is the masses don't understand how hard the flex read-react is to implement, especially with zero continuity & no superior players. If Corbin has been The Chosen One to carry on the Sloan system then failure is on a nostalgic ownership. Corbin has most likely been shaking his head with the rest of us at how the players have responded.
 
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