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The Fresh Prince

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What if you traded away Sap and/or Albert, and variable assets, of course for Rondo/Pierce (whatever), and then went out and grabbed Jermaine O'Neal. Kermit Corbin obviously wouldn't start O'Neal over Favors, right?

So I came across this...

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--...224705.html;_ylt=Aq9CJuAFZV41aTHX3.ZF0oMfPKB4

and this ....

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_yl...rumors&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701

Even though from November... this is an NBA season, and Boston is doin pretty mediocre.

So here you have it.

https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxgd2yw

The trade that muffed Dwightgate. Explanation? Boston? New core to surround Garnett, and deepen the bench. Plus, Sap and Mo expire and you have a stack to spend in the Free Agency. Phoenix, huge salary dump for next year, and a good prospect in Sullinger. And for Utah, you get Sap and Al out of here, bring in Rondo with Pierce who can comfortably settle himself as a role player on a young promising team. You also bring in a young Fab Melo and Jermaine O'Neal for backups. Boom, Bitches.

Rondo/Tinsley/Burks PG - 2
Hayward/Foye/Burks <- :( SG -3
Pierce/Marvin/Carroll SF - 3
Kanter/O'Neal/Marvin PF - 2
Favors/Melo/O'Neal C - 2

Beautiful. If you don't agree to Fab Melo, you're sick. I know it's the D-League, but the guy is going to be a dominant shot blocker in the NBA.
 
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Boston says "Hell No". They're trading away Mello, Sullinger, Pierce and Rondo for.......???

Beasely is "Garbage" with a capital "G". They'll let Mo & Millsap go... but now they don't have any PG. Can they seriously get Chris Paul from FA? If not who will they get to run the point? Gortat playing with Garnett is not a "core". Who's going to chase around stretch 4's? Gortat's a Center, Garnett can't barely walk let alone run. Then who's their 3rd big? 4th big?

I like your enthusiasm, but Boston can't hang up the phone fast enough IMO.
 
Boston says "Hell No". They're trading away Mello, Sullinger, Pierce and Rondo for.......???

Beasely is "Garbage" with a capital "G". They'll let Mo & Millsap go... but now they don't have any PG. Can they seriously get Chris Paul from FA? If not who will they get to run the point? Gortat playing with Garnett is not a "core". Who's their 3rd big? 4th big?

I like your enthusiasm, but Boston can't hang up the phone fast enough IMO.
Williams, Terry, Bradley and Barbosa.
Melo hasn't played an NBA game this year. Sullinger isn't giving them an immediate spark, is he?
Still got Jeff Green. Now you got Millsap. Now you got Gortat. For the giggles, yeah you got Beasley. You had Garnett. You had Wilcox. Oh, you got Brandon Bass too. ABC's kid, 3, 4, 5, 6 bigs in front of your eyes.
The roster, as it stands is ****. Draft picks are not mentioned in this trade, but you can imagine they'd build this to benefit moreso. Not every team needs a point guard to average over 9 assists a game to go to the Finals. Boston would be deep with fresh talent.

Mo/Bradley/Barbosa
Lee/Terry/Barbosa
Millsap/Beasley/Green
Garnett/Bass/Green
Gortat/Wilcox

And Beasley was obviously a filler, that serves purpose as a small forward to come off the bench. I guess I should write all of this out so you can comprehend, man. If Boston does this trade dude, they can still contend in the East this year, do whatever they please in the free agency, and you know for damn sure that they'll attract big name free agents. So where are you getting the "Hell no" from? Why would Boston want to stick with mediocrity this year, and have to live with it the next because they're pumping over 33 million dollars into Rondo, Pierce, and Garnett?
 
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Williams, Terry, Bradley and Barbosa.
Melo hasn't played an NBA game this year. Sullinger isn't giving them an immediate spark, is he?
Still got Jeff Green. Now you got Millsap. Now you got Gortat. For the giggles, yeah you got Beasley. You had Garnett. You had Wilcox. Oh, you got Brandon Bass too. ABC's kid, 3, 4, 5, 6 bigs in front of your eyes.
The roster, as it stands is ****. Draft picks are not mentioned in this trade, but you can imagine they'd build this to benefit moreso. Not every team needs a point guard to average over 9 assists a game to go to the Finals. Boston would be deep with fresh talent.

Mo/Bradley/Barbosa
Lee/Terry/Barbosa
Millsap/Beasley/Green
Garnett/Bass/Green
Gortat/Wilcox

And Beasley was obviously a filler, that serves purpose as a small forward to come off the bench. I guess I should write all of this out so you can comprehend, man. If Boston does this trade dude, they can still contend in the East this year, do whatever they please in the free agency, and you know for damn sure that they'll attract big name free agents. So where are you getting the "Hell no" from? Why would Boston want to stick with mediocrity this year, and have to live with it the next because they're pumping over 33 million dollars into Rondo, Pierce, and Garnett?

Thanks for mocking us, Prince Albert. Very well put together.
 
Phoenix doesnt get enough, and give up everything.

Must be a joke. You ever hear of free agency, and have you also heard that Phoenix is well below .500?

No? It's time to throw the Zenith and the Windows 95 in the trash, home skillet.

But anyways, Looney, I'm sorry. I Didn't know Marcin Gortat, Mikey Basilleaf and O'Neal were the dynasty of the Suns. They sure would be doomed next year with more than 25 million in free cap space.
 
Williams, Terry, Bradley and Barbosa.
Melo hasn't played an NBA game this year. Sullinger isn't giving them an immediate spark, is he?
Still got Jeff Green. Now you got Millsap. Now you got Gortat. For the giggles, yeah you got Beasley. You had Garnett. You had Wilcox. Oh, you got Brandon Bass too. ABC's kid, 3, 4, 5, 6 bigs in front of your eyes.
The roster, as it stands is ****. Draft picks are not mentioned in this trade, but you can imagine they'd build this to benefit moreso. Not every team needs a point guard to average over 9 assists a game to go to the Finals. Boston would be deep with fresh talent.

Mo/Bradley/Barbosa
Lee/Terry/Barbosa
Millsap/Beasley/Green
Garnett/Bass/Green
Gortat/Wilcox

And Beasley was obviously a filler, that serves purpose as a small forward to come off the bench. I guess I should write all of this out so you can comprehend, man. If Boston does this trade dude, they can still contend in the East this year, do whatever they please in the free agency, and you know for damn sure that they'll attract big name free agents. So where are you getting the "Hell no" from? Why would Boston want to stick with mediocrity this year, and have to live with it the next because they're pumping over 33 million dollars into Rondo, Pierce, and Garnett?

Boston will contend with Mo at the point and Lee at the SG? Millsap playing full time SF? Garnett with half a knee running around stretch 4's?

Contending for what? The 8th seed in the Playoffs?

Not sure if serious...
 
Boston will contend with Mo at the point and Lee at the SG? Millsap playing full time SF? Garnett with half a knee running around stretch 4's?

Contending for what? The 8th seed in the Playoffs?

Not sure if serious...

So what do they got now, man? You're acting like Boston is 20 games over .500 and just needs a small tune-up. The team's in limbo. They can do whatever this year, and they can land any free agent they please the next.

You'll be back though, "But, but, but..." You remind me of one of those kids.
 
So what do they got now, man? You're acting like Boston is 20 games over .500 and just needs a small tune-up. The team's in limbo. They can do whatever this year, and they can land any free agent they please the next.

You'll be back though, "But, but, but..." You remind me of one of those kids.

There is a reason nobody is excited about your trade.... I'll leave it at that bro.
 
Phoenix though, is a contender and Boston is too. Utah's the worst team in this trade, and I guess collecting Rondo and Pierce would be a steal in it's own mind. Paul Pierce is running for MVP this year, what the hell was I thinking?
 
I'll help you out.

Trades for Rondo has been discussed here on JazzFanz for a while now. It's almost a certainty that we would have to give up at least one of the 4 young core to get him.

But now you're saying we can just throw out Jefferson, Millsap, Mo, and land not only Rondo but Pierce as well?

If that's a possibility I think KOC would have already made that deal.
 
This trade was more on the subject that Boston would look to create a new team of stars next year. With nearly 32 million dollars being shed after this season, Dwight Howard and CP3 could be signed (If they want em) and then Millsap is retained, the Celtics just pack a punched. Free agency is purty deep this up n coming year.

Won't lie, I came up with this whole idea when I was high. Kind of threw it together, but so, anyways. It's like when your high and have the munchies, you just throw a bunch of seasonings, food together and it still tastes like Chef Ramsey whipped it up.

This trade I feel is still a chef salad, not something you made at the salad bar. It serves a purpose. Not for the now, for Boston, but for next year. It's not like the Celtics have never been a bad team, or a mediocre team. Think back to 2005-2006, 06-07. Think back to the mid 90's.

People at Jazzfanz cry after a win, and are bipolar with whether or not they like the players on this team... so yeah. Who gives a Fred about a Jazzfanz opinion on a trade thread.

Atleast I wasn't sick enough to ask for Boozer back.
 
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This trade was more on the subject that Boston would look to create a new team of stars next year. With nearly 32 million dollars being shed after this season, Dwight Howard and CP3 could be signed (If they want em) and then Millsap is retained, the Celtics just pack a punched. Free agency is purty deep this up n coming year.

Won't lie, I came up with this whole idea when I was high. Kind of threw it together, but so, anyways. It's like when your high and have the munchies, you just throw a bunch of seasonings, food together and it still tastes like Chef Ramsey whipped it up.

This trade I feel is still a chef salad, not something you made at the salad bar. It serves a purpose. Not for the now, for Boston, but for next year. It's not like the Celtics have never been a bad team, or a mediocre team. Think back to 2005-2006, 06-07. Think back to the mid 90's.

People at Jazzfanz cry after a win, and are bipolar with whether or not they like the players on this team... so yeah. Who gives a Fred about a Jazzfanz opinion on a trade thread.

Atleast I wasn't sick enough to ask for Boozer back.

Nice perspective.

Nice Location.
 
Nice perspective.

Nice Location.

I try.

Can't reason with the feebs on Jazzfanz. Not every trade is going to benefit every team for the now. That's why they put the word 'future' in the dictionary. I know Corbin is raping us of ours, but Boston can dump 2 big contracts this year and hit a homerun next.
 
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It'll be loomed on, but he had to take one for the team...

https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=az3mghl

UTA - One thing is for sure, I want to see Melo play a few NBA games before I'm sold. Then again, maybe if he stays building his confidence up in the D-League and Boston never gives him an opportunity, it could play for the better. You're saying bye to the Sexual Favors, you now bring in a true center who is becoming more NBA ready by the day. You have Rondo who is going to make Enes Kanter a beast. No longer can Ty the Sty bench Enes the Menace. If you feel its better, you could swap Kanter for Favors.

BOS - I think everything from Nick's rants has been fulfilled, Boston now has a future piece, expirings and one of the best defensive centers in the league.

PHX - You're pretty much giving up Gortat for Jefferson, a huge expiring and can trade Choka Scola in the offseason for whatever you please.

Utah is playing a little risky with moving Favors, but Fab Melo is young, and is just what you are looking for in a young center; 7 foot guy who can rebound and block. Jermaine can start for the time being, and we can partake in trading/signing for another center, if likely.


Rondo/Mel The Abuser/Speedy Gonzales
Foye/JYD/Burke
Pierce/Haywerd
Kanter/Marvin/
O'Neal/Melo/Kanter

We're sitting matador on D at the 2 and 3 in the SL, but that's Ty the Sty for ya! *Support the troops (veterans)*
 
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"A" for effort.

But now you're putting the future of the franchise squarely on Kanter, Hayward and Rondo. Kanter is developing, but OK, I can see the potential is there. Hayward is going to be decent and steady. He's a keeper.

Then you have Rondo. Rondo, Rondo, Rondo... Opinions are divided on him. It would be a BOLD move for KOC/Lindsey for sure. He could be great under the right coach. But if you're bringing in Rondo, you better find Ty the Sty a new job, because he won't last long. And you better put KOC/Lindsey/Greg on heart monitors, coz it will be a roller coaster ride with him, week in week out. As Garnett used to say, "As Rondo Goes, the team goes".

Will KOC/Lindsey/Greg (all conservative guys BTW) take that risk? I don't know. I doubt it. They just simply won't risk the future of the entire franchise on 1 player. It's just not their style.

It's a fun exercise, unfortunately clay birds just won't fly.
 
"A" for effort.

But now you're putting the future of the franchise squarely on Kanter, Hayward and Rondo. Kanter is developing, but OK, I can see the potential is there. Hayward is going to be decent and steady. He's a keeper.

Then you have Rondo. Rondo, Rondo, Rondo... Opinions are divided on him. It would be a BOLD move for KOC/Lindsey for sure. He could be great under the right coach. But if you're bringing in Rondo, you better find Ty the Sty a new job, because he won't last long. And you better put KOC/Lindsey/Greg on heart monitors, coz it will be a roller coaster ride with him, week in week out. As Garnett used to say, "As Rondo Goes, the team goes".

Will KOC/Lindsey/Greg (all conservative guys BTW) take that risk? I don't know. I doubt it. They just simply won't risk the future of the entire franchise on 1 player. It's just not their style.

It's a fun exercise, unfortunately clay birds just won't fly.
Yeah, but I'll be real with you, I think that these three teams can make something happen. Seeing from rumors, I could see Pierce somehow land here, and Gortat land in Boston. It's a puzzle I'm trying to solve though, but I think we'd trade the Jeffermother to Boston.

But I appreciate the constructive criticism.

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And the reason being, the Jazz love to have a vet. Jeff Green can take Pierce's spot, or they trade again for a small forward. Pierce is an established vet with a lot of experience under that belt of his. They'd hope he'd be the motivator to Hayward, Burks, Favors, and Kanter and freeing Jefferson leaves one spot open for either Kanter or Favors in the starting lineup, obviously. Paul Pierce can relax in Utah, it's obvious our fan base loves you until you're in another uniform. In Boston he's going to start getting hate for any decline of his. I think Pierce as a spot up 3 point shooter who can take you off the dribble unexpectedly and win a game at any given time could give Utah the X factor.

I mean, I'd imagine players with 15 years of NBA experience all the way to the rookies would probably be caught off guard that Paul F'Ing Pierce is playing for the Utah F'Ing Jazz. Get rid of Mo. Business is business. Jamaal Tinsley can find players better than either Willie or Speedy, and I believe it's true that when you put Jamaal Tinsley in your starting lineup for a given amount of time, he becomes 5 times better than when he's comin off the bench. The offense atleast isn't out of control.

Tinsley's got them smarts, the passing game has been his bread and butter since the beginning of time. Maurice just isn't built for a playoff team as a starter unless you're giving him a superstar to pass to. Corbin would never have him come off the bench though, it'd be pretty nasty to witness, though.
 
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Yeah, but I'll be real with you, I think that these three teams can make something happen. Seeing from rumors, I could see Pierce somehow land here, and Gortat land in Boston. It's a puzzle I'm trying to solve though, but I think we'd trade the Jeffermother to Boston.

But I appreciate the constructive criticism.

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I think Greg/KOC/Lindsey will keep Al. With him, we're guaranteed at least 30 wins. They just don't like running & gunning style of play, too risky for their likings. Their pockets just aren't that deep. I think Al has proven that he can be counted on to score, get some rebounds. You pair him with Favors and you neglect some of his defensive deficiency. That way you sell tickets, you're happy.
 
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