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Interesting old article about Corbin and Kanter

Diamond77 said:
https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/a...tupid.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28272&NewsCatID=366

Article is a bit harsh, but I agree 100% with Turkey's national team coach Tanjevic about Corbin and Kanter!

Ty is limiting Enes development!
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We've been over this. I'm not here to be your memory.



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Interesting to see how GS has turned some of their team over to the young guns, and it's paying off.
Injuries aside last year, GS has clearly jumped us. We've stayed the same, and teams like Houston, and GS are getting better.
It's telling.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Interesting to see how GS has turned some of their team over to the young guns, and it's paying off.
Injuries aside last year, GS has clearly jumped us. We've stayed the same, and teams like Houston, and GS are getting better.
It's telling.
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That is by far the most frustrating part. 18 months ago we were talking about the Jazz being a top 4 team in the West within 3 years and now that feels like a dream with the lack of development of the young guys and the progression of the other teams in the West. We are looking like a perennial first round exit unless we draft a superstar or we start the rebuilding process over.
 
orangello said:
That is by far the most frustrating part. 18 months ago we were talking about the Jazz being a top 4 team in the West within 3 years and now that feels like a dream with the lack of development of the young guys and the progression of the other teams in the West. We are looking like a perennial first round exit unless we draft a superstar or we start the rebuilding process over.
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This is a case for trading away our fat, and going with the young guns. Which would get us a lottery pick most likely, and we could see what we really have in our current lotto picks. You know if they wouldn't mind wearing out their knees and all. We all know high draft picks like to save themselves so they can have long careers.
 
I understand why everyone hates Golden State because they are the team the Jazz should be. They chose the path the Jazz should have followed. They made the necessary trades, the necessary drafts.and now they are giving the necessary minutes to who deserve them. And now they are a legitimate threat in the west with solid players at EVERY position. I don't hate them, I am jealous of them.
 
pickledXgrandma said:
I understand why everyone hates Golden State because they are the team the Jazz should be. They chose the path the Jazz should have followed. They made the necessary trades, the necessary drafts.and now they are giving the necessary minutes to who deserve them. And now they are a legitimate threat in the west with solid players at EVERY position. I don't hate them, I am jealous of them.
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I still subscribe to the idea that GS is just getting extremely lucky. They will either fall of this year, or return to reality next year and not make the playoffs. I think Mark Jackson is pulling off one of the coaching miracles that gets you the COY, but then everything else in your career fails to live up to that early season of over-success.

And we hate them because they tanked.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I still subscribe to the idea that GS is just getting extremely lucky. They will either fall of this year, or return to reality next year and not make the playoffs. I think Mark Jackson is pulling off one of the coaching miracles that gets you the COY, but then everything else in your career fails to live up to that early season of over-success.

And we hate them because they tanked.
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Why? Do you mean karma?? I'm serious that I'm not sure why you stated this .. and am curious whether it's something more than 'what they did was wrong.'
 
PKM said:
Why? Do you mean karma?? I'm serious that I'm not sure why you stated this .. and am curious whether it's something more than 'what they did was wrong.'
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I just don't see that much talent on the team. Their 2nd best player is Lee and their best player is a 3pt shooting PG. I guess I just don't like anyone on their team, besides Bogut, but I don't expect him to maintain health. People talk about them giving their young players the ropes, but all their young players are kind of mediocre besides Thompson (not really considering Curry a "young" player since it's his 4th year starting).
 
pickledXgrandma said:
I understand why everyone hates Golden State because they are the team the Jazz should be. They chose the path the Jazz should have followed. They made the necessary trades, the necessary drafts.and now they are giving the necessary minutes to who deserve them. And now they are a legitimate threat in the west with solid players at EVERY position. I don't hate them, I am jealous of them.
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I hate Golden State because as an organization they lack integrity. They intentionally lost games last year to avoid giving the Jazz their draft pick. Even their fans admitted it. Classless and for that I hate them.
 
Stoked said:
I hate Golden State because as an organization they lack integrity. They intentionally lost games last year to avoid giving the Jazz their draft pick. Even their fans admitted it. Classless and for that I hate them.
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Don't forget about how they conveniently omitted that Bogut's ankle surgery was microfacture surgery until wayyyy after the fact. But at least it wasn't their intent to deceive anyone.
 
I still remember the games where they would be up in the 4th quarter and they would, for some odd reason, have the entire crunch team lineup consist of D-League players.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I just don't see that much talent on the team. Their 2nd best player is Lee and their best player is a 3pt shooting PG. I guess I just don't like anyone on their team, besides Bogut, but I don't expect him to maintain health. People talk about them giving their young players the ropes, but all their young players are kind of mediocre besides Thompson (not really considering Curry a "young" player since it's his 4th year starting).
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Solid answer. I suspected you had more reason than merely karma.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I still remember the games where they would be up in the 4th quarter and they would, for some odd reason, have the entire crunch team lineup consist of D-League players.
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They did have some legitimate injuries. Lee had some sort of minor sugery near the end of the season as an example. Who knows how bad Steph Curry's ankle really was. The Warriors sure as hell didn't want him to come back. The prime example of the tanking was in the last two games of the season. In the 4 or 5 games before that, Klay Thompson was playing around 40 mpg. But in the second to last game against the Hornets, he only played 28 minutes and sat out the whole 4th quarter in an 83-81 loss. Then in their final game of the season against the Spurs's scrubs, Thompson played 29 minutes and again sat out the whole 4th quarter.
 
nightmare3983 said:
They did have some legitimate injuries. Lee had some sort of minor sugery near the end of the season as an example. Who knows how bad Steph Curry's ankle really was. The Warriors sure as hell didn't want him to come back. The prime example of the tanking was in the last two games of the season. In the 4 or 5 games before that, Klay Thompson was playing around 40 mpg. But in the second to last game against the Hornets, he only played 28 minutes and sat out the whole 4th quarter in an 83-81 loss. Then in their final game of the season against the Spurs's scrubs, Thompson played 29 minutes and again sat out the whole 4th quarter.
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I wanted to also say that another reason I don't like the Warriors is that I despise Mark Jackson. He led a locker room mutiny during his season in Utah, I didn't really care for him as an ESPN analyst, he was conceited to the point that he refused to work his way through the ranks as an assistant coach, and he completely played along with the Warriors tanking, at least in the last two games of the season. There was no logical reason to sit Thompson out the whole 4th quarter those last two games if they were trying to win.
 
Does anybody doubt that, at some point, we could have swapped Al for an injured Bogut? As of today, would anybody rather have Al?

For all the apologists' praise over O'LongConner's patience (for which he does deserve credit), it remains true that we've been dragging around an unbalanced roster AND HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A DEAL TO MAKE THE TEAM BETTER.

It would be awesome to have Bogut returning to OUR roster, with the younguns having seen major minutes in his downtime. Then it'd be awesome to deal Millsap at this time and proceed with Bogut-Kanter-Favors.
 
The article is off a newspaper somewhere I am sure. Just says that kanter has been playing less than expected and only played 5 the other jight. Some stupid comment from corbin, the obilgatory jazz will more than likely trade al or paul to make room.

As I watch gs they are good this year for two reasons. Jack and landry. Those guys are beasting hard this year.
 
Vermin said:
The article is off a newspaper somewhere I am sure. Just says that kanter has been playing less than expected and only played 5 the other jight. Some stupid comment from corbin, the obilgatory jazz will more than likely trade al or paul to make room.

As I watch gs they are good this year for two reasons. Jack and landry. Those guys are beasting hard this year.
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Don't forget Steph Curry. It takes a special player to shoot 45% on 3's at such a high volume (7 3PA's/game).
 
NAOS said:
Does anybody doubt that, at some point, we could have swapped Al for an injured Bogut? As of today, would anybody rather have Al?

For all the apologists' praise over O'LongConner's patience (for which he does deserve credit), it remains true that we've been dragging around an unbalanced roster AND HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A DEAL TO MAKE THE TEAM BETTER.

It would be awesome to have Bogut returning to OUR roster, with the younguns having seen major minutes in his downtime. Then it'd be awesome to deal Millsap at this time and proceed with Bogut-Kanter-Favors.
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Until he goes down for another half season with an injury.
 
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