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Qman

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Why is everyone so high on Monroe?

He can pass.
He can make a jumpshot.

He is a poor post player that can only finish left handshot.
He is an average rebounder.
He is a poor shotblocker.
He is a poor to average athlete.

His standing reach is equal to Carlos Boozer's. Making him a poor center and an average sized power forward.

He is not the kind of player that can help us beat the Lakers. He isn't big enough for Gasol and Bynum. He is too slow for Odom.

What am I missing about this player?
 
Qman said:
Why is everyone so high on Monroe?

He can pass.
He can make a jumpshot.

He is a poor post player that can only finish left handshot.
He is an average rebounder.
He is a poor shotblocker.
He is a poor to average athlete.

His standing reach is equal to Carlos Boozer's. Making him a poor center and an average sized power forward.

He is not the kind of player that can help us beat the Lakers. He isn't big enough for Gasol and Bynum. He is too slow for Odom.

What am I missing about this player?
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Here's what you are missing. The Jazz have the 9th pick in a very weak draft. It's not like the Jazz can magically make the players in the draft better. Who do you like at number 9?
 
If he catches every break possible, he'll become a poor man's Channing Frye. It doesn't get any more exciting than that.
 
I think people see him as a good value @ 9, and a cheap replacement for Boozer.
He is not the answer for the Lakers no, but would make our PF spot more secure with the loss of Boozer.
Sap and Monroe together would solidify the 4 spot for us, with more money to go after a center when AK leaves.

If we take a long look at Whiteside, Udoh, and Aldrich and don't think they are the answer Monroe is a quality pick at #9.
 
I guess I see Henry, Aminu or Babbit all being better pros. I am also am leaning towards taking a chance on someone with bigtime potential- Whiteside or Aminu or whoever.
 
Because David Locke and the rest of 1320 praise him constantly.

He also seems like a classy guy.

I personally think Monroe is going to suck in the NBA. The Jazz should perhaps consider trading down for 2 draft picks if Monroe truly is the best player available at #9.

Monroe reminds me a lot of Jared Jeffries, and we all know how terrible he's been.
 
Monroe would be okay with me if we had a non-lottery pick but we have the ninth pick. I don't like the fact that this guy barely gets off the floor (rarely dunks at 6'10) and doesn't get many blocks on the defensive end. He also has a very limited post-game. He'll improve, yes.. but I wouldn't get him at #9. He's a project player IMO.. gonna be a few years before he sees any substantial minutes on the floor. Unfortunately for the Jazz, this was not the year to fall out of the top 5 in the draft order because after that the quality of players drops big time.
 
I don't think I'd be disappointed in Monroe. I think Udoh will be a comparable pro, and more along the lines of what the Jazz would like more.
 
Everyone is high on him (AROUND THE LEAGUE NOT JUST THE JAZZ) because it is EXTREMELY rare to see a guy that big that has passing, shooting, dribbling skills that this guy has. Like others have said that makes him a commodity especially in a draft as weak as this one is.

He is Chris Webber like with his passing. This is why Locke thinks he would rack up Triple Doubles in the Jazz's offense.
 
MrBlue said:
Everyone is high on him (AROUND THE LEAGUE NOT JUST THE JAZZ) because it is EXTREMELY rare to see a guy that big that has passing, shooting, dribbling skills that this guy has. Like others have said that makes him a commodity especially in a draft as weak as this one is.

He is Chris Webber like with his passing. This is why Locke thinks he would rack up Triple Doubles in the Jazz's offense.
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We don't need bigs that can pass well. We need bigs that can block shots, play hard, and score inside, which are all Monroe's weaknesses. How many times have we seen player ### touted as having size and skills yet lack passion who completely crash and burn in this league? Too many to count...

The Jazz don't need any more soft, skilled, bigmen who don't want to rough it up inside, stand around on defense, and who would rather eat donuts or read books than kick ***.

I would much rather see us roll the dice on Aldrich or Whiteside, players who could help shore up our weaknesses than add upon the heap of passionless and defensive challenged bigmen we currently have.
 
Monroe also understands the pick and roll game and would fit into the Jazz's offense seamlessly. His overall skill level is quite rare and I believe he is still a work in progress (his jumper should improve, his defensive positioning should improve, and his FT% should improve).

I watched quite a few of his games and I've been salivating over the Jazz drafting him since late into his freshman season.

Qman- if your sole quest is to beat the Lakers in the playoffs, you may not even get far enough to play the Lakers (if you start building a team only for that purpose). Not saying we don't have needs to address, but with the #9 pick in the draft- its difficult to pull a rabbit out of your hat and get a guy that has the length, athleticism, and overall game to overtake the Lakers.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
You still have to draft best player not JUST need and then adjust (or try to adjust) the roster accordingly
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We will need to wait to see if Monroe truly is the best player available. His lack of passion already should be a warning flag to buyers everywhere. Again, how many big and skilled players who lack passion have busted? Plenty.
 
The Thriller said:
Because David Locke and the rest of 1320 praise him constantly.

He also seems like a classy guy.

I personally think Monroe is going to suck in the NBA. The Jazz should perhaps consider trading down for 2 draft picks if Monroe truly is the best player available at #9.

Monroe reminds me a lot of Jared Jeffries, and we all know how terrible he's been.
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Mareese Speights with a penchant for passing and without the aggression. I keep saying that, I think.
 
The Thriller said:
Because David Locke and the rest of 1320 praise him constantly.
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I was just about to mention this...Locke's probably influenced some people's opinion of him. If you haven't heard Locke talk about Monroe, check out his scouting report on him: https://www.nba.com/jazz/features/scouting_gregmonroe.html. He's definitely overestimating him...his best case scenario is Bogut, but he will NEVER be the defensive force Bogut is. Not even close in a best case scenario. I think Locke's worst case scenario (Spencer Hawes) should be his likely scenario.

Funny thing is...Locke is scouting the best games of Monroe's career, the Big East tournament from this past year. No wonder why he has such an inflated opinion of him.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
You still have to draft best player not JUST need and then adjust (or try to adjust) the roster accordingly
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I completely disagree with this. When not picking in the top 3-5 picks (when picking a potential franchise player), it should almost always be about need first and foremost. There's not enough depth in almost any draft to be basing your team around the 9th pick in the draft. If you are, you are in for a LONG rebuilding process. Especially on a team established with a core in place such as the Jazz do. Draft a player that fills a need and is able to contribute right away, not on a hypothetical that this may be the most talented player available. Monroe isn't good enough to reshape a roster around him. We're not talking about John Wall here...
 
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