Per 36 of the C4 and projections.

[fishonjazz]

We also have a future HOF coach at the head, just like the Pistons... Oh wait...

Who's our Rashweed?

Who is our clutch PG?

Kanter will be our rasheed, but a better rebounder.

As far as point guard...... burks?.... burke?.... burkes?

 

[b_line]

We also have a future HOF coach at the head, just like the Pistons... Oh wait...

Who's our Rashweed?

Who is our clutch PG?

Honestly though, burks is projecting to be not that different of a player than Chauncey....

 

[b_line]

Yeah the core 4 aren't improving by 15% PLUS the linear projection with the per 36 minute stat. That's just too much.

Why not? That is almost exactly the growth factor that Paul millsap had from his third season to the best year of his career. Check it out here: https://m.bkref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXmXXmillspa01.html&t=3

 

[Deleted member 365]

Honestly though, burks is projecting to be not that different of a player than Chauncey....

So who's our Rip?

Prince?

As I remember, they had an awesome backup PG. Our PGs suck.

And Larry Brown's chair coached better than our own coach.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We also have a future HOF coach at the head, just like the Pistons... Oh wait...

Who's our Rashweed?

Who is our clutch PG?

Yeah, players have to develop. You put Sheed, Billups, Prince, Wallace, and Hamilton together for their rookie contract and they aren't winning a championship either. Billups had scrub-like stats his 1st 4 years.

Guys have to develop into those players.

 

[b_line]

So who's our Rip?

Prince?

As I remember, they had an awesome backup PG. Our PGs suck.

And Larry Brown's chair coached better than our own coach.

Our guys are still VERY young. We also don't need to be a carbon copy of that team, the idea is that they had a bunch of very good players, and not really a superstar

 

[orangello]

So what can we expect per minute given the 15% growth from our C4? (25% growth from Burks)

Hayward: 21.6 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 3.8 APG

Favors: 17.6 PPG, 11.8 RPG, 2.6 BPG

Kanter: 18.5 PPG, 11.7 RPG, 1.3 BPG

Burks: 17.4 PPG, 5.9 RPG, 4 APG

What do you guys think? Can any of this happen?

I think these numbers might be a little high. I'm glad Cy brought up the point about 4 players over 17ppg.

This is what I see:

Hayward: 20 PPG, 4 RPG, 5 APG

Favors: 14 PPG, 11 RPG, 2.5 BPG

Kanter: 18 PPG, 12 RPG, 2.5 APG

Burks: 19 PPG, 6 RPG, 3 APG

I think some of those numbers might be a little high. A lot of these numbers will fluctuate based on this upcoming draft.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Yeah, players have to develop. You put Sheed, Billups, Prince, Wallace, and Hamilton together for their rookie contract and they aren't winning a championship either. Billups had scrub-like stats his 1st 4 years.

Guys have to develop into those players.

Oh.

Ok. So lets wait 10+ years for this team to actually compete for a championship? Maybe we should start rebuilding/developing these guys? Maybe work towards that championship?

All the more reason why we should have traded away Millsap/Jefferson. And why the hell are we still starting the old farts at point?

 

[vslice02]

When was the last time a team had 4 players average above 17 ppg? Has that ever happened? Has 15 ever happened?

4 players averaging 15 pts or more per game has happened a bazillion times throughout NBA history. 4 at 17pts is obviously rarer but not unheard of - the D'Antoni/Nash era Suns definitely did it to name one although obviously they played at a faster pace.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Why not? That is almost exactly the growth factor that Paul millsap had from his third season to the best year of his career. Check it out here: https://m.bkref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXmXXmillspa01.html&t=3

Let's say you take out Jefferson and Millsap, that is taking away 33 ppg from the team. Even if you assume all those ppg go to the C4, that even wouldn't put them over 17 pg for each player. Then you add in the fact those points are going to go to new players brought into replace roster spots and so forth.

I think a more realistic expectation would be something like:

Hayward 17 ppg
Burks 15 ppg
Favors 12 ppg
Kanter 12 ppg

 

[nightmare3983]

The Bill Russell Celtics had 4 or more players scoring 15 PPG or more multiple years.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

4 players averaging 15 pts or more per game has happened a bazillion times throughout NBA history. 4 at 17pts is obviously rarer but not unheard of - the D'Antoni/Nash era Suns definitely did it to name one.

I should have thought about the Suns. Obviously you have to have an extremely high scoring/uptempo offense to do this. They even almost had 5 over 15 ppg in 06-07.