Fire Corbin or Keep Him?

[franklin]

Or Millsap..

That would have been the worst coaching decision imaginable. Ilyasova would destroy Favors or Kanter on the other end.

I think you have to find a point in the game for chemistry's sake. He found a time to go away from Favors, didn't he?

He found a way to go toward Favors and Kanter all game:

Millsap Substitution replaced by Kanter 03:59
03:59 Ilyasova Substitution replaced by Dalembert

Again in the third, Ilyasova comes out and Corbin throws the book at them a minute later:

Williams Substitution replaced by Burks 04:48
Millsap Substitution replaced by Hayward 04:48
Watson Substitution replaced by Kanter 04:48

The only two decisions he made here were:
a) going Kanter>Favors final minutes of regulation. That was the correct decision.
b) Sticking with his starters in OT (minus absolute garbage from Burks). I am no fan of this brand of coaching. That triple overtime loss...

 

[gregbroncs]

If J.J is getting wide open 3's or even just good looks, I am thinking that is going to hurt you even if you have a favorable matchup where you are only getting 2's. Plus, If Sap had been Guarding Redick, I have got to think that our rotations on the perimater would have been slower, and it was the bucks swinging the ball around the perimater for good looks that killed us.

If Millsap can not defend a guy at the 3 point line when he has 2 guys behind him capable of defending the paint then he has no business at SF in any game. In that case then just put Favors in for Millsap (this is what I wanted during the game).

 

[Hartsock]

Corbin apologists are saying that it was fine to leave Favors on the bench because Millsap and Kanter were playing well. So, if Corbin had suddenly subbed out either of those players for Favors, would you seriously have been upset?

I wouldn't have been upset but I think its totally ok to go with two players who are currently playing well. The more I think about it the more sense it makes actually.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Exactly

I guess we need to be #1 in offense, defense, have 3 consecutive rookies of the year, and go 82-0.

YES!!!

And we can START with not benching (for the rest of the game and OT) our star player that's having the game of his career .. oh wait, too late.

 

[Basketball_Romantic23]

Corbin apologists are saying that it was fine to leave Favors on the bench because Millsap and Kanter were playing well. So, if Corbin had suddenly subbed out either of those players for Favors, would you seriously have been upset?

Had Corbin Put in Favors for Kanter, I think i would have been fine with that too. Favors was playing great so it would have made sense too. The only Mistake i Think Corbin made was not putting Favors in at the start of OT. I think you could argue that would have been a good time to get him in the game.

 

[fishonjazz]

Why? On a scale of 1 - 10 how do you see Corbin as a;

- Player dev't coach
- Offensive coach
- Defensive coach
- Player management (locker room, buy-in to a common vision/goal)
- Game management (substitutions, x's and o's)

Before anyone answers, please be advised I'll ask for specific evidence that corroborates any favorable (no pun intended) answers.

3
2
3
7
1

 

[Basketball_Romantic23]

If Millsap can not defend a guy at the 3 point line when he has 2 guys behind him capable of defending the paint then he has no business at SF in any game. In that case then just put Favors in for Millsap (this is what I wanted during the game).

Millsap did make a lot of baskets for us down the stretch though.

 

[fishonjazz]

Why would he want to stay. Better than both the starters averaging 10 MPG less. No extra minutes in the game of his life. Who would want to play for a coach that does not reward you for playing well.

Great question.....

Seriously... so far into his career what has the utah jazz done that should make him want to stay with the jazz?

 

[spycam1]

That would have been the worst coaching decision imaginable. Ilyasova would destroy Favors or Kanter on the other end.




He found a way to go toward Favors and Kanter all game:



Again in the third, Ilyasova comes out and Corbin throws the book at them a minute later:



The only two decisions he made here were:
a) going Kanter>Favors final minutes of regulation. That was the correct decision.
b) Sticking with his starters in OT (minus absolute garbage from Burks). I am no fan of this brand of coaching. That triple overtime loss...

Why exactly? I'm honestly trying to get to the bottom of this.

 

[Hartsock]

YES!!!

And we can START with not benching (for the rest of the game and OT) our star player that's having the game of his career .. oh wait, too late.

I thought you out of all people would understand the logic behind this. Favors was just getting hustle buckets, late in game hustle buckets become less and less likely because the game slows down and you need players who can put the ball in the basket while running an offense or going 1 on 1. Kanter and Millsap are both exponentially better offensively than Favors. Its really simple actually.

 

[fishonjazz]

At what point do you think he should have gone away from Kanter?

Gone away from millsap

 

[Getting Traded]

Back your opinions up if you want others to

Hartsock, you have yet to make a cogent argument for any of your opinions ... PKM has made many. All you do is try to find a way to justify your support of Corbin without any substantive proof. How do you figure Kanter and Millsap are "exponentially" better -- what an absurd statement. And all of Favors points were not just hustle baskets; he also made some nice moves. He was on a roll, and in the third quarter they weren't getting him the ball, and he still had 6 points.

Then you take him out of the game. I can only imagine how frustrated he must've felt. And that's something you Corbin apologists fail to see or understand. Favor's perspective. Just think if you were him. That's just another example of Corbin's poor management skills.

 

[spycam1]

Had Corbin Put in Favors for Kanter, I think i would have been fine with that too. Favors was playing great so it would have made sense too. The only Mistake i Think Corbin made was not putting Favors in at the start of OT. I think you could argue that would have been a good time to get him in the game.

Most defending Corbin seem to at least agree with this.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Hartsock, you have yet to make a cogent argument for any of your opinions ... PKM has made many.

This post is ... MONEY!

 

[spycam1]

I wish I had recorded this game so I could go back and further analyze wtf happened in the 4th. Does anyone know how I could watch it again? Will it be re-broadcast at some point?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Most defending Corbin seem to at least agree with this.

and then most all of this would be moot..

 

[homeytennis]

Fire

 

[gregbroncs]

I thought you out of all people would understand the logic behind this. Favors was just getting hustle buckets, late in game hustle buckets become less and less likely because the game slows down and you need players who can put the ball in the basket while running an offense or going 1 on 1. Kanter and Millsap are both exponentially better offensively than Favors. Its really simple actually.

Defending the rim and challenging shots is just as important as that. And Favors is far better at both of those things than any other player on our team.

 

[franklin]

Why exactly? I'm honestly trying to get to the bottom of this.

Why is going with the hot hand who got you back into the ballgame a good decision?

I wouldn't have been pissed if Corbin stuck to his rigid rotations and put Favors back in at the six minute mark. I guarantee that if he had then the peanut gallery would have lynched him for it all the same.

 

[fishonjazz]

Gone away from millsap

I saw you explain to another poster that we could not take millsap out because favors would struggle to guard illyasova.

Favors is suppossed to be our 4 for the future... which means that he IS going to have to guard stretch 4's in the future....we could have used last night as an opportunity for him to learn to guard stretch 4's better (while favors was having the game of his life as well) so that maybe in the future, during a season that we are actually contenders, he would be better prepared to guard a player like illyasova.