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Carroll latest victim of the jeffersuck curse?

so is it now conclusive that going in the starting lineup.
being the 5th option on a 1 option offense is bad?
or is carroll just in a slump?
 
gotta admit it is a unique talet that jefferson and corbins system with jefferson in the game has on players.

gotta admire it.
carrol went from arguably the best wing(okay maybe hayward is the best wing)
to the worse.
hahahaha.
 
What does this say about Marvin though?

marvin did have a bad game. but sitll a better game than carrol.
maybe marvin is still having remnance of the jeffersuck curse. or marvin just plain sucks(offensivly)

imho i think marvin williams plays good to great defense and makes no mistakes on defense
 
I do not think it's what happening for Carroll. It's all about the pace up game for him to show himself. He's good defensive player, energy and hustle guy who shows it while playing with the youngster in the open court. He shoots the three occasionally when his feet set but still so inconsistent so we must not hope more from him not to be disappointed of his performance. He's who he's. Yet, i really wish to see him in Jazz for long time.
 
Every person on the team is suffering from the curse one way or another. From the wings not getting rhythm shots to the young guys not getting time on the floor. It just tends to show more when they crack the starting lineup. And then just stand around because the black hole has the ball in the post

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I heard the reason Obama is such a bad president...Big Al
The reason the Twilight movies were terrible...Big Al
The reason Jean Claude Van Damme sucks as an actor...Big Al
The reason Kristen Stewart is such a terrible actress...Big Al
The reason The Caveman TV series was awful...Big Al
The main reason why the Jazz lost against the Bulls in '98...Big Al
Why Ty can't coach his way out of a paper bag...Big Al (OK, maybe this one is true)
 
Are we talking about last night's game, where Carroll did a fairly good job matched up against Durant? NOt a perfect job, but I didn't see much of a drop-off in his energy or hustle.

One's stats always drop when one changes from playing the bench to playing the starters.
 
Are we talking about last night's game, where Carroll did a fairly good job matched up against Durant? NOt a perfect job, but I didn't see much of a drop-off in his energy or hustle.

One's stats always drop when one changes from playing the bench to playing the starters.

He played good D and didnt score, sounds a lot like Marvin
 
This is good for the Jazz. DeMarre believes he should be starting somewhere. GM's are going to look at his stats and see him as strictly a back-up and offer a contract accordingly. Makes him more affordable.
 
It's not just the Jefferson affect. It's the fact that Ty continues to start both Al and Millsap. Both hold onto the ball too much and take forever whether it's Al just holding the ball and trying to back down his man or Millsap dribbling to much looking looking for an opening for his shot or a drive. Both are one on one players, both are bad at pick'n roll. It's damn near impossible to run an offense with both on the floor. I don't care who the coach is, neither is looking to just be part of an offense, when they get the ball they are just looking to score.
 
I heard the reason Obama is such a bad president...Big Al
The reason the Twilight movies were terrible...Big Al
The reason Jean Claude Van Damme sucks as an actor...Big Al
The reason Kristen Stewart is such a terrible actress...Big Al
The reason The Caveman TV series was awful...Big Al
The main reason why the Jazz lost against the Bulls in '98...Big Al
Why Ty can't coach his way out of a paper bag...Big Al (OK, maybe this one is true)

I like where we are going with this.

The reason N. Korea broke off the armistice... Big Al
The reason Kenny Rogers got all that plastic surgery... Big Al
The reason Michael Jackson's hair caught on fire... Big Al
The reason Richie Valens plane went down... Big Al
The reason "the music died"...again... Big Al
The reason the Space Shuttle exploded... Big Al
The reason Tom and Katie split... Big Al
The reason for the 29 stock crash... Big Al
The reason we have 3rd world countries... Big Al
The reason for global warming... Big Al, and Al Gore
The reason for Utah inversion... Big Al
The reason franklin drinks so much... Big Al
 
The reason the Soviet Union fell...Big Al
The reason for Viagra...Big Al
The reason for anti-depressant drugs...Big Al
The real reason why Sloan left...Big Al
The reason for the drug problem in America...Big Al
The reason why the Jazz won't make the playoff...Big Al
 
It's not just the Jefferson affect. It's the fact that Ty continues to start both Al and Millsap. Both hold onto the ball too much and take forever whether it's Al just holding the ball and trying to back down his man or Millsap dribbling to much looking looking for an opening for his shot or a drive. Both are one on one players, both are bad at pick'n roll. It's damn near impossible to run an offense with both on the floor. I don't care who the coach is, neither is looking to just be part of an offense, when they get the ball they are just looking to score.
millsap?
holds on to the ball?
really?
you blame millsap?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH


millsap almost never gets the ball.
 
Carroll and Marvin Williams are scrubs and it is tough for them to go against the best players in NBA to start games. Big Al has nothing to do with it. What is not obvious to me is why our best SF by FAR, who also happens to be the youngest and has most potential - Hayward - is on the bench, while scrubs are starting and playing like garbage?
 
Carroll and Marvin Williams are scrubs and it is tough for them to go against the best players in NBA to start games. Big Al has nothing to do with it. What is not obvious to me is why our best SF by FAR, who also happens to be the youngest and has most potential - Hayward - is on the bench, while scrubs are starting and playing like garbage?

cant you remember.
hawyard also does not play well in the starting lineup.

[sarcasm]so it is also though for hayward to go against the best players in the NBA to start games[/sacrasm]
 
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