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You decide on the head coach

Put on you GM hat and decide the Jazz HC dilemma:

  • Fire Corbin, hire Horny.

    Votes: 5 23.8%

  • Keep Corbin. You want him here long term.

    Votes: 1 4.8%

  • Keep Corbin. Your plan is to get Wiggins then let him go next summer.

    Votes: 15 71.4%
  • Total voters
    21
Fire Corbin if you can find a GREAT replacement. (and fire who hired him)
Otherwise, wait.. and hire a replacement that knows we have a nice nucleus AND a high draft pick next year.
 
Might as well keep Corbin one more year. Don't sign any vets. Fill the team with young players and then Fire Corbin for missing the playoffs. :)
Take the draft pick. Hire a real coach. And move forward.
 
gregbroncs said:
Might as well keep Corbin one more year. Don't sign any vets. Fill the team with young players and then Fire Corbin for missing the playoffs. :)
Take the draft pick. Hire a real coach. And move forward.
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This is quickly becoming consensus around here.
 
PKM said:
This is quickly becoming consensus around here.
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And that is pretty sad. That we are almost willing to sacrifice another entire season because of the HC. Or that we think keeping the coach makes us so much worse next season that he will help us suck to get a pick.
 
The problem with keeping Corbin is this:

What if Kanter, Favors and Hayward blow up, play great, but Corbin's dumb coaching decisions get you the ninth spot in the west, where a better coach would have gotten you the seventh spot in the playoffs? You don't get the draft pick, you don't get the playoffs.

If you know Corbin is gone next summer, don't keep him around. It accomplishes nothing.
 
green said:
The problem with keeping Corbin is this:

What if Kanter, Favors and Hayward blow up, play great, but Corbin's dumb coaching decisions get you the ninth spot in the west, where a better coach would have gotten you the seventh spot in the playoffs? You don't get the draft pick, you don't get the playoffs.

If you know Corbin is gone next summer, don't keep him around. It accomplishes nothing.
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Nothing to really disagree with this.. I think its just that we are defeatists and assume the change won't come prior to end of next season.
 
green said:
The problem with keeping Corbin is this:

What if Kanter, Favors and Hayward blow up, play great, but Corbin's dumb coaching decisions get you the ninth spot in the west, where a better coach would have gotten you the seventh spot in the playoffs? You don't get the draft pick, you don't get the playoffs.

If you know Corbin is gone next summer, don't keep him around. It accomplishes nothing.
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What do you mean we don't get the draft pick? A pick in the 12-14 range is still better than down in the 18-20 range. The problem with getting rid of Corbin now is that the Jazz are late to the party. What decent HC wants to step in to a situation where the Jazz are clearly going cheap. Next year, I really think the Jazz are counting on snapping up a few significant players at the deadline from teams needing to offload salaries to avoid the 2x luxury tax. A season of development for the core, a high draft pick + perhaps some very solid veterans might then be enough to attract a very good coaching candidate.
 
green said:
The problem with keeping Corbin is this:

What if Kanter, Favors and Hayward blow up, play great, but Corbin's dumb coaching decisions get you the ninth spot in the west, where a better coach would have gotten you the seventh spot in the playoffs? You don't get the draft pick, you don't get the playoffs.

If you know Corbin is gone next summer, don't keep him around. It accomplishes nothing.
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Players cannot look great without a good coach. Corbin has shown great ability to hold them back and hold them down. Why would it change?

My reply to the poll would be different than the choices offered. I would fire Ty and do a real search for a coach with a discernable track record of success as a HEAD COACH who looks like he can do it at the pro level. In other words, no hiring from within based on comfort, loyalty, familiarity, jazz associations, etc etc etc. I would not care a bleep if the guy never heard of the Jazz or had ever been to utah. Ty was hired for all the wrong reasons, and it shows.
 
MoTown16 said:
What do you mean we don't get the draft pick? A pick in the 12-14 range is still better than down in the 18-20 range. The problem with getting rid of Corbin now is that the Jazz are late to the party. What decent HC wants to step in to a situation where the Jazz are clearly going cheap. Next year, I really think the Jazz are counting on snapping up a few significant players at the deadline from teams needing to offload salaries to avoid the 2x luxury tax. A season of development for the core, a high draft pick + perhaps some very solid veterans might then be enough to attract a very good coaching candidate.
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A good coaching candidate could see all that coming and be ready to sign on for next year and get things prepared, work with the young guys early.
 
MoTown16 said:
What do you mean we don't get the draft pick? A pick in the 12-14 range is still better than down in the 18-20 range. The problem with getting rid of Corbin now is that the Jazz are late to the party. What decent HC wants to step in to a situation where the Jazz are clearly going cheap. Next year, I really think the Jazz are counting on snapping up a few significant players at the deadline from teams needing to offload salaries to avoid the 2x luxury tax. A season of development for the core, a high draft pick + perhaps some very solid veterans might then be enough to attract a very good coaching candidate.
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I would assume the only reason to keep Ty is to shoot for a top 3 pick.
 
gregbroncs said:
Might as well keep Corbin one more year. Don't sign any vets. Fill the team with young players and then Fire Corbin for missing the playoffs. :)
Take the draft pick. Hire a real coach. And move forward.
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Is this not sleazy? I'm down with the end result, but Corbin would have a legitimate gripe if he was fired for missing the playoffs when he was given a roster with that intention.
 
mct said:
Is this not sleazy? I'm down with the end result, but Corbin would have a legitimate gripe if he was fired for missing the playoffs when he was given a roster with that intention.
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Nothing wrong with giving the guy an opportunity and at the same time creating a no lose situation .... he performs well and we have a great coach.. he sucks and we have a great draft pick.. nothing wrong with that in my book.

Now, if a team intentionally hired a ****ty coach.. that would be wrong for the players and the fans.
 
If it lands us Wiggins/Jabari/Randle/Harrison, I really don't care if keeping Corbin on intentionally because he is dumb is arguably a sleazy move.
 
green said:
Isn't that what the Jazz are doing by keeping Corbin? Or do they believe he is a good coach?
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I believe the FO believed he was a good coach at the hire. Now they need to keep him another year. Its hard to hire a good coach if the organization is perceived to have a hair trigger.
 
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