Flat Tax and Tithing

[MoreFeasts]

Depends on the size of the check (it would need to be thousands). There is a gift tax, but as I understand it, it has a large deduction.

Grandma pays the gift tax, not the recipient.

 

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Yes they do. You can buy shrimp and steaks with food stamps. My wife and I FINALLY went on food stamps our last year of schooling after watching our classmates eat like kings. We would bring hot dogs to cookouts while they brought shrimp, bacon wrapped steaks, etc. We were given over $800 a month for food for two adults, a two year old and an infant. We have NEVER eaten as good as when we were on food stamps and we currently make WELL OVER six figures a year.

With a family of seven, in 2005, I didn't receive that much in food stamps. I agree that's very generous (unless you live in Alaska or Hawaii, anyhow).

 

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So why do all of the liberals ideas just enslave people?

They don't.

Liberals ideas cause dependance, not liberty.

This is a myth. You are much freer to take chances when you have security.

Yet, they continue to push those ideas, even when they have all failed and bankrupted many cities/states.

We can go through many failed/bankrupted states, some of which had liberal ideals and some of which did not, and I don't think you'll find a single case where liberal ideals were the primary cause of bankruptcy or failure.

 

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With a family of seven, in 2005, I didn't receive that much in food stamps. I agree that's very generous (unless you live in Alaska or Hawaii, anyhow).

Each state is different.

 

[MoreFeasts]

Please continue.

ah okay, I had an oversight, I did use the word file, but I also used the words report and pay.
The point still stands, regarding your false accusation.
They would only lose a loophole if they are not poor, contrary to your assertion.

 

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They don't.



This is a myth. You are much freer to take chances when you have security.



We can go through many failed/bankrupted states, some of which had liberal ideals and some of which did not, and I don't think you'll find a single case where liberal ideals were the primary cause of bankruptcy or failure.

I'd be interested in any stats you have to back that up.

Also what about that human nature you always go on and on about?

 

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ah okay, I had an oversight,
but the point still stands, regarding your false accusation.

What false accusation? I claimed you said that they should file taxes on that assistance and you did.

 

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I've often wondered aloud, why doesn't the city of Philadelphia go to companies like Nike, or Apple, or any other large corporation and say, "We will let you operate for 10, 20, etc years TAX FREE, providing you do a, b, c (like hire at least xxxx employees, average wage at $***, provide xxxx benefits). It would cost the city NOTHING to do. It would take an area of over 200,000 people where over 70% live below poverty and give them jobs.

Every major city offers tax incentive programs. Philadelphia is no exception.

https://business.phila.gov/pages/ta...stitem=tax credits, grants & other incentives

However, companies generally prefer building on land where there have not been prior industrial activity (fewer pollutants). Wages will be much lower in third-world countries than even the US minimum wage. This makes is difficult for any city to attract factories from major corporations.

 

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It boggles my mind the percentage of people that have been brainwashed into believing there really isn't that much government waste in spending.

There is waste in any major bureaucracy, whether for-profit, non-profit, or public. Why would government be an exception?

 

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There is waste in any major bureaucracy, whether for-profit, non-profit, or public. Why would government be an exception?

I see your point but do not like it. The arguement that because it exists elsewhere it is allowable here is a bad arguement.

 

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... but I think it would be a fun thread for us to compile ways the government is wasting money (specifically) and start a list.

Should we also make lists for private corporations? How Exxon wastes money, or Anthem, or Burlington Northern?

 

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What false accusation?

That I want to take away loopholes from poor people.