So I want to talk about the Mormons

[Stoked]

Regarding religion, you have been on one side of the power dynamic, regarding race, you have been on the other side. Being a white Mormon is a very different experience from being a black Protestant. Also, I don't think of your point of view as lesser, just surrounded by the privilege that you refuse to acknowledge in degree and effect.



When people were checking your head for horns, would it have helped if you said the LDS were Christians just like they were?

In one or two cases it lead to a discussion which in turn lead to friendship. So yes it did. Regardless of their actions i am still responsible for mine. I can either act as I know I should in an effort to bridge the gap or I can let their actions dictate my own and reinforce the divide they wish to create.

Edit: I (see: immediate family) ended up converting three of the girls in my high school.

 

[Stoked]

Regarding religion, you have been on one side of the power dynamic, regarding race, you have been on the other side. Being a white Mormon is a very different experience from being a black Protestant. Also, I don't think of your point of view as lesser, just surrounded by the privilege that you refuse to acknowledge in degree and effect.



When people were checking your head for horns, would it have helped if you said the LDS were Christians just like they were?

On Race and Religion I have been on opposing sides most of the time and yet my stance is consistent on both.

 

[green]

Since when do you believe that Mormons have some fort of insight on the persecution faced by Mormons? Maybe if you just dropped the name "Mormon", and called yourself "Christian", everything would better, and you wouldn't face so much persecution. [/sarcasm]

The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.

*shakes head*

 

[One Brow]

In one or two cases it lead to a discussion which in turn lead to friendship. So yes it did. Regardless of their actions i am still responsible for mine. I can either act as I know I should in an effort to bridge the gap or I can let their actions dictate my own and reinforce the divide they wish to create.

Edit: I (see: immediate family) ended up converting three of the girls in my high school.

Identifying as an African American hasn't prevented any friendships that I'm aware of, nor stopped any inter-racial relationships.

 

[One Brow]

On Race and Religion I have been on opposing sides most of the time and yet my stance is consistent on both.

So, you will no longer say you're a Mormon?

 

[One Brow]

The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.

*shakes head*

Proof that even the sarcasm tag just isn't a large enough sign for some people.

 

[Stoked]

Identifying as an African American hasn't prevented any friendships that I'm aware of, nor stopped any inter-racial relationships.

So because you have not seen it means it does not exist?

 

[One Brow]

So because you have not seen it means it does not exist?

I'm open to hearing stories about it. Are you saying that you refuse to be friends with anyone who says they are "African American", as opposed to "black"?

 

[colton]

My understanding is the KJV would have been the Bible of the churches Smith attended. Even preachers tend to sound like the Bible they read from during sermons, more than they do in casual conversation. Just like in any other field, we hear a certain vocabulary and style in a certain context, and emulate it there. Occasionally, I even notice that I talk differently on buses, while teaching, while working, while gaming, etc. It wouldn't need to be "doable", it would be automatic.

Perhaps you can point to some other early 19th century American works that display this same amount of Hebraisms, then?

I thought the translations were being provided supernaturally?

Certainly. But that doesn't mean Joseph Smith had nothing to do with the process. You should read about how Oliver Cowdery tried to translate, for example.

 

[Stoked]

So, you will no longer say you're a Mormon?

I wont make a promise I can't keep. I'm human and will mess up.

Having said that, Even as a member of the LDS faith I can see that seperating ourselves as Mormons does us no favors. Just as other politically correct terms do others no favors. But then again that was always my stance.

I do find it funny that you are attempting to use the arguement I have made before agaisnt me. It is a foolish tactic since you are arguing for what I have been saying. So how can you be arguing against me?

 

[Stoked]

I'm open to hearing stories about it. Are you saying that you refuse to be friends with anyone who says they are "African American", as opposed to "black"?

Did I say that? But when I encounter someone that tells me they are African American I tell them I am European American and they look at me like I have lost my mind. I just smile and watch as you can see them thinking about it.

It is a nonsense foolish term that has one purpose. To seperate. That is the problem. People want to focus to much on what seperates us. Skin tone, religion, political views...all crap and hogwash.

Racism (one example of many) will never go away because society wants to embrace that divide. That is why we have stupid terms like that. All it does is contribute to the divide. Just one more brick on that wall between us.

 

[mellow]

He's a chatbot, its what he does. Ignore button is your only hope.