Hahaha.. funny. Rep'd.
Trade Hayward to Boston
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Hahaha.. funny. Rep'd.
So how close?
Really Close?
or... Really Really Close?
or... Really Really Really Close?
or... Really Really Really Really Close?
Twin Towers
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Hayward played 28 minutes per game. Paul George played 37 minutes per game.
Adjust to PER 36
Points per game
Both average 17.4 per game. Exactly the same.
FG%
Hayward - 43.5%
George - 41.9%
3P%
Hayward - 41.5%
George - 36.2%
Free throw%
Hayward - 82.7%
George - 80.7%
Free throw rate(Attempts & makes)
Hayward - 4.2-5.0
George - 2.8-3.5
Rebounds
Hayward - 3.8
George - 7.3
Assists
Hayward - 3.6
George - 4.0
Steals
Hayward - 1.0
George - 1.7
Blocks
Hayward - 0.7
George - 0.6
Turnovers
Hayward - 2.1
George - 2.8
Hayward is more efficient from all areas of the floor and gets to the free throw line more which is one of the biggest things to look at to become a consistent scorer. Hayward in my opinion is a better man to man defender. George takes more risks and gets burnt more but that is also why he averages more steals.
Hayward also did this when he was usually the 3rd or 4th option on the floor. They ran the offense through Paul George so of course he will have higher numbers.
Next year Hayward will have more control......Unless they sign Mo Williams again.....Please no.
Hayward is not that far behind George. Next year I think all of the doubters are going to be feeling really dumb. And also Paul George does not set his feet. He is always twisting his body when he shoots.
^^^
All good stuff. But don't forget - Hayward did his thing against subs & scrubs last year, while George was a starter all year long.
All good stuff. But don't forget - Hayward did his thing against subs & scrubs last year, while George was a starter all year long.
And as a first option.
Doublea
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LOL.. so... are you kidding??? Or being serious???
I have a feeling you're serious. LOL..
^^^
I remembered reading some Pacers fans whining about how the color of their team is directly correlated to how many wins they get. The blacker the team, the more wins.
Not sure if that's true or not.. someone should do a study on it.. LOL
I remembered reading some Pacers fans whining about how the color of their team is directly correlated to how many wins they get. The blacker the team, the more wins.
Not sure if that's true or not.. someone should do a study on it.. LOL
On a contender.
Twin Towers
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So if you are playing 28 minutes a game how is that playing scrubs? How many minutes per game are scrubs playing?
Check out his stats as a starter(33 minutes per game). Not much different than his per 36 also. He actually shot a higher percentage.
He also was playing with guys jacking up shots in that starting lineup. Mo and Jefferson and Foye.
Big difference when your playing team ball on the pacers vs guys jacking up shots as fast as they can catch the ball on he Jazz.
https://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/4249/gordon-hayward
But its normal everyone seems to get deceived because they look at Points rebounds and assists to judge how good a player is. Why would I think Jazzfanz is any different? lol
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
I actually thought Dutch was a decent poster until he started saying Americans deserve to die.
I'd be interested to see Hayward's starter minute stats vs George's starter minute stats.
You're compare like with like that way.
Twin Towers
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Hibbert>Jefferson
West>Millsap
Stephenson>Foye
Hill>Mo
Vogel/Shaw > Corbin
Are we really going to act like Paul George is that much better? Look at the team comparison. Its ridiculous. At every position they are better. Put Hayward on that team and they would of still got to the conference finals. Everyone is acting like Paul George is the next Jordan. The praise is crazy that players get when they get to play 37 minutes per game.
West>Millsap
Stephenson>Foye
Hill>Mo
Vogel/Shaw > Corbin
Are we really going to act like Paul George is that much better? Look at the team comparison. Its ridiculous. At every position they are better. Put Hayward on that team and they would of still got to the conference finals. Everyone is acting like Paul George is the next Jordan. The praise is crazy that players get when they get to play 37 minutes per game.
Twin Towers
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George started all year. Those stats I posted above are his starter minutes.............
b_line
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Hayward started a fair amount of games as well. And he played mo the dick Williams.
So.. is it possible to single out Hayward's starter minute stats too then??? i..e, stats that are not tainted by him dominating on subs & scrubs.
Well if you are going to penalize Hayward for playing scrubs which isn't the case because not only did he start a lot of games but he was playing in the forth quarter during crunch time in many of the games he didn't start.
The other factor is even though the eastern conference won the championship overall the Eastern conference is inferior to the Western conference. So Hayward has had to play against better competition than George. The difference might not be as big as it use to be but there are still way more crappy teams in the east.
The other factor is even though the eastern conference won the championship overall the Eastern conference is inferior to the Western conference. So Hayward has had to play against better competition than George. The difference might not be as big as it use to be but there are still way more crappy teams in the east.
Doublea
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Ha! I like Hayward.