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Boozer who?

half of the players you mention rarely go to the low post. Boozer, Amare, Duncan and Bosh all play at the high post and mid post more than the low post. Duncan can and does go to the low post but no where near as much as he used to. Boozer rarely goes to the low post. He just does not have the size or athletic ability to play down there at all. The only 2 that go to the low post on a consistent basis and carry their team are Yao and Gasol. Bynum is more of a garbage and cutting big playing off of Gasol and Bryant. Dwight is also more of a slasher though he is definitely improving in his low post game.
 
half of the players you mention rarely go to the low post. Boozer, Amare, Duncan and Bosh all play at the high post and mid post more than the low post. Duncan can and does go to the low post but no where near as much as he used to. Boozer rarely goes to the low post. He just does not have the size or athletic ability to play down there at all. The only 2 that go to the low post on a consistent basis and carry their team are Yao and Gasol. Bynum is more of a garbage and cutting big playing off of Gasol and Bryant. Dwight is also more of a slasher though he is definitely improving in his low post game.

You completely ignored the facts that zone D was reinstated and teams don't run low post schemes as much as they used to. Zone D makes it hard to obtain usable low-post positioning. One guy steps in front and all that banging work is gone.
 
He asked for a list of low post players. You attempted and failed to give him one. Though a zone defense was implemented very few teams consistently use it.

Just the act of going to the low post and being a threat from there opens space for other players. That one player who steps in the way is leaving somebody else wide open. There is a reason that Orlando's shooter's are consistently wide open. Same can be said for the Lakers. Their team have legitimate low post threats that have to be defended. There bye making it easier to get open if your a 3 pt shooter.
 
Every now and then a kid in AP English with a big head finds this site.

We are all worse off for it.

I think 2814 is beyond some angst-ridden Dawson's Creek-esque neurotic character (aka AP English student).

In case you were inferring that I am the AP English kid, uh, no. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt...all about 10 years ago.
 
I think 2814 is beyond some angst-ridden Dawson's Creek-esque neurotic character (aka AP English student).

In case you were inferring that I am the AP English kid, uh, no. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt...all about 10 years ago.

I meant him, haha.
 
Personally I think 2814 is hilarious.

And no, we are not the same person.

Nobuddy thinks you're the same person as 2814, eh, Chem?

We just think you're the same person as One Brow, that's all.

Wait...that would make you the same as 2814, wouldn't it?

Lemme study on this here perplexity for a spell, and Imma git back to ya, eh?
 
It is a shame that 2814 feels the elitist need to put so many personal insults in his posts, as he has some really good points.


OK, Chem, I gotz it figured out now, eh? That there post gimme the clue I was lookin for. Purty simple, actually, aint it?

2814 is Kicky, and Imma git bizzy stalkin til I proves it.
 
Some board members are pretty good at sleuthing out dual identities, Hopper. They could give you some results gratis - if you ask nicely of course. haha
 
This is the Paul Millsap appreciation thread. Through the first 3 games his stats are 21-12-3.
He never whines, never brags, never dresses downs rookies on the court. What he does is that he always comes to play and gives 100% on the court, even when no one else does.

I am so glad that we have him on the team and that a certain other player has taken his talents to Chicago.

It would be nice if you could keep this thread updated...throughout the season.
 
I think some of this argument is semantic. What you are calling post-centric, I wouldn't consider post-centric. If the post is an important part of the offense, but not the main focus, it's not a post-centric offense.

I don't necessarily agree with the initiating assumption: that the post is important but not central. It's a central presence, inherent, like Orson Welles in 'The Third Man'.

The team will be broken without it. Sloan demands this, which is why so many Kirilenko nob slobberers lost their marbles around 2007: the broad basis and ideal was back on the court, in Williams and Boozer.

On a broader basis, the league has softened, tried to attack post play, in the contexts and carry-through of the type of player imported and the types of rules that have been implemented.

Yet, the fact remains, that bigs define high-level play, no matter how much Steve Nash is falsely hyped through rule changes and pace controlling (him), the Suns were never truly elite, much like Nash himself. Smallball as a mirage, and Nash as a charlatan exposed by pace and his inability to play within a post-up offense.

The reason Kobe's winning championships in LA, while LeBron had to leave Cleveland, directly relates. Guys like Gasol, Howard and even broken-down guys like KG and Shaq (not now, but say in 2006) are as or more important than the guards hyped on their own teams or in the matchups they see in the playoffs.
 
I don't necessarily agree with the initiating assumption: that the post is important but not central. It's a central presence, inherent, like Orson Welles in 'The Third Man'.

The team will be broken without it. Sloan demands this, which is why so many Kirilenko nob slobberers lost their marbles around 2007: the broad basis and ideal was back on the court, in Williams and Boozer.

On a broader basis, the league has softened, tried to attack post play, in the contexts and carry-through of the type of player imported and the types of rules that have been implemented.

Yet, the fact remains, that bigs define high-level play, no matter how much Steve Nash is falsely hyped through rule changes and pace controlling (him), the Suns were never truly elite, much like Nash himself. Smallball as a mirage, and Nash as a charlatan exposed by pace and his inability to play within a post-up offense.

The reason Kobe's winning championships in LA, while LeBron had to leave Cleveland, directly relates. Guys like Gasol, Howard and even broken-down guys like KG and Shaq (not now, but say in 2006) are as or more important than the guards hyped on their own teams or in the matchups they see in the playoffs.

Got it. Would you give the mailman a reach-around if he asked? I know you like the way he looks in those Sketchers.
 
I don't necessarily agree with the initiating assumption: that the post is important but not central. It's a central presence, inherent, like Orson Welles in 'The Third Man'.

The team will be broken without it. Sloan demands this, which is why so many Kirilenko nob slobberers lost their marbles around 2007: the broad basis and ideal was back on the court, in Williams and Boozer.

On a broader basis, the league has softened, tried to attack post play, in the contexts and carry-through of the type of player imported and the types of rules that have been implemented.

Yet, the fact remains, that bigs define high-level play, no matter how much Steve Nash is falsely hyped through rule changes and pace controlling (him), the Suns were never truly elite, much like Nash himself. Smallball as a mirage, and Nash as a charlatan exposed by pace and his inability to play within a post-up offense.

The reason Kobe's winning championships in LA, while LeBron had to leave Cleveland, directly relates. Guys like Gasol, Howard and even broken-down guys like KG and Shaq (not now, but say in 2006) are as or more important than the guards hyped on their own teams or in the matchups they see in the playoffs.

It's like Buzz Killington trying to talk basketball.
 
He asked for a list of low post players. You attempted and failed to give him one. Though a zone defense was implemented very few teams consistently use it.

Just the act of going to the low post and being a threat from there opens space for other players. That one player who steps in the way is leaving somebody else wide open. There is a reason that Orlando's shooter's are consistently wide open. Same can be said for the Lakers. Their team have legitimate low post threats that have to be defended. There bye making it easier to get open if your a 3 pt shooter.

Yes, because I gave a list of low post players. Or did I say teams don't use players such as Amare as they would have in the '80's - '90's, and specifically say "most of the really dominant low post players are over the hill right now". The only fail is your reading comprehension skills and apparent lack of concentration. To heap it on a bit, you credit two from my list as low-post threats, while ignoring AJ, and the ability of others to go low post IF the offensive schemes were still 80's-90's. Typical punt. Put up or shut up.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9L5055BKpQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN0YnrKs_EM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv06xYHLQZQ

Need more???
 
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