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Enes Kanter works out for the Jazz

My grandfather played for Kentucky and he is an 'all-time great'...

I played against him later and even though he was in his 60's at the time, I can tell you he would've been KILLED in today's game against today's players. A all time great wouldn't even get a walk-on role today. Sad but true.

(not telling his name)
 
Enes CanTear You Apart said:
So we are looking at the difference between a player and his opponents to judge his dominance but we don't look who he dominated?

So Wilt had much bigger gap upon the opponents thus he has the biggest dominance?
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Of course we are looking at who he dominated. But at the same time, belonging to a different phase of basketball makes them face different opponents, right? This also makes them deserve appreciation of the dominance they've had in their time in my opinion. They all have risen in different times and different contexts, so they may not be the guy that dominated the next decade, but they are the best that could happen or at least happened in their context. That's why we shouldn't debate for instance if Jordan was more dominating than Wilt to set the score eternally. You can ask and answer of course, but this won't be too healthy is what I'm saying. The context is really important for a high ceiling player to reach his best. The 90's was the most talented decade of the NBA for my taste. Jordan was the leading act. Now we're discussing Lebron. If Lebron emerged in Jordan's time, maybe he would steal the act. Or if Jordan emerged in a time without dunks, maybe he would play by layups, or even play at center LoL

I think we should leave players where they belong. Bill dominated his time, then Wilt did his, Kareem, Dr. J., Magic, Jordan, Lebron... Can we even say that Stockton-Malone didn't dominate more than any other duo up 'till them? They were unstoppable. If you are remembered as such, that means that you are in the golden pages of the history.
 
I can't follow you.

addictionary said:
Of course we are looking at who he dominated. But at the same time, belonging to a different phase of basketball makes them face different opponents, right?
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Right.


addictionary said:
This also makes them deserve appreciation of the dominance they've had in their time in my opinion.
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Sure, I appreciate Wilt's dominance in his time.


addictionary said:
They all have risen in different times and different contexts, so they may not be the guy that dominated the next decade, but they are the best that could happen or at least happened in their context. That's why we shouldn't debate for instance if Jordan was more dominating than Wilt to set the score eternally.
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Then how can we say that Wilt was the most dominant ever? Isn't it saying Wilt was more dominating than Jordan and setting the score eternally?


addictionary said:
I think we should leave players where they belong. Bill dominated his time, then Wilt did his, Kareem, Dr. J., Magic, Jordan, Lebron... Can we even say that Stockton-Malone didn't dominate more than any other duo up 'till them? They were unstoppable. If you are remembered as such, that means that you are in the golden pages of the history.
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I'm all for it, I leave Wilt where he belonged and won't call him the most dominant ever.
 
Enes CanTear You Apart said:
Then how can we say that Wilt was the most dominant ever? Isn't it saying Wilt was more dominating than Jordan and setting the score eternally?



I'm all for it, I leave Wilt where he belonged and won't call him the most dominant ever.
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You keep saying this but I've never said he is the most dominant ever. All I was saying is that you can't pick a most dominant ever, but it's my opinion. If anyone wants to pick one player, they can. It just doesn't sound healthy judgement to me.
 
addictionary said:
You keep saying this but I've never said he is the most dominant ever. All I was saying is that you can't pick a most dominant ever, but it's my opinion. If anyone wants to pick one player, they can. It just doesn't sound healthy judgement to me.
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Was your whole point freedom of speech/thinking?

If so I misunderstood you big time.
 
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Enes Kanter @Enes_Kanter 15 Sep


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addictionary said:
LoL Not the main point but that too. What I mainly said was the context is important to consider when choosing between two players from different eras.
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Meh, then, what's the difference between your opinion and mine? This would be a dull argument from this point. (If it wasn't already)



Revolution 9 said:
Enes Kanter @Enes_Kanter 15 Sep


Officially back @ Home *$w4t L4k£ €it¥* Let's get this crazy season started, miss the best fans in NBA #JazzNation Show some Love
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I wish you guys could read some Turkish responses to his tweets, they are hilarious.
 
dogtoucher said:
How do you all not have rules against bumping old **** like this? Make a new ****ing thread, Christ
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It was interesting to see what people were saying then. There isn't a rule against it. No I will not make a new thread, I had nothing new to add. Suck it.

P.S. pos rep incoming, we need love not hate, bro.
 
Enes CanTear You Apart said:
Then it's NUMBERICA.

Opponents matter. Whenever I hear someone saying Wilt was the most dominant ever, I take it as injustice to the likes of Jordan, Shaq and Lebron.
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Which floor NUMBERICA play on? His backyard (Looking at you NUMBERICA)? Or are you saying any of the other players than Wilt wasn't professional?

I am not belittling Shaq or Jordan. I think they dominated their era but not in the same fashion as Wilt.
 
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