Found this on Youtube. Thought it deserved its own thread. Is this Prodigy's YT channel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c18U291cCkM#t=35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c18U291cCkM#t=35
Trey Burke highlights v. GSW
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Love Burke's elevation on those shots. He gets up there which is needed for his height.
He may never be an All-Star, but I think he will be considered a good player, and be able to hit that clutch final shot.
All in all we got a player folks. Relax, he's not a bust. The only question is how good will he be...
He may never be an All-Star, but I think he will be considered a good player, and be able to hit that clutch final shot.
All in all we got a player folks. Relax, he's not a bust. The only question is how good will he be...
I'll raise the stakes: I think he's going to have a decent year this year, with plenty of mistakes and plenty of games that make people doubt him. In year two, he's going to explode. And I think he'll be in the All Star conversation in year three and four.
He has the same IQ, vision, and level of competitiveness that the league's very best guards have. He isn't a Westbrook or Rose, but we don't need him to be. Nash-lite. Calling it now.
He has the same IQ, vision, and level of competitiveness that the league's very best guards have. He isn't a Westbrook or Rose, but we don't need him to be. Nash-lite. Calling it now.
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This is the first time I've seen him demonstrate the thing he did so well in college: see the SPOT on the floor that he wanted to shoot from. He can get to those SPOTS and shoot off the dribble. That kind of vision and mid-range game will work really well in our offense.
Frankly, I was more impressed with three plays:
1. The assist to Hayward.
2. The fast break feed to Evans.
3. The curl around Kanter from the baseline and shot.
The first two showed, frankly, exceptional court vision for a first NBA game, and neither involved the pick and roll which Corbin didn't run a lot for Trey, but where he'll be even more successful. The angle of the bounce pass to Evans was particularly impressive - quick, flawless, in control in a way that Hayward's passes aren't - despite Hayward's own vision.
The last was impressive because he made something out of nothing - his passing lane and driving lane had been cut off on a fast break, so he just sprinted around Kanter and made it happen.
He's going to be good. And I bet he'll be great.
1. The assist to Hayward.
2. The fast break feed to Evans.
3. The curl around Kanter from the baseline and shot.
The first two showed, frankly, exceptional court vision for a first NBA game, and neither involved the pick and roll which Corbin didn't run a lot for Trey, but where he'll be even more successful. The angle of the bounce pass to Evans was particularly impressive - quick, flawless, in control in a way that Hayward's passes aren't - despite Hayward's own vision.
The last was impressive because he made something out of nothing - his passing lane and driving lane had been cut off on a fast break, so he just sprinted around Kanter and made it happen.
He's going to be good. And I bet he'll be great.
CitizenofCapua
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He is really good at transition, running the fast breaks (filling the lane/finding the right man) and most of the points/assists came from them. At half court offense if the coaching make him play some two men games with Kanter&Favors he will be better. He would know what to do better instead of forcing some positions. But i think he will be more comfortable with getting used to his team mates and their abilities/inabilities.
My hope is that Corbin is using Hayward as the point forward right now because Hayward has a fundamental understanding of how each offensive play works and Burke is still learning. I imagine that by late November, we'll start seeing a switch where Burke becomes the predominant playmaker and Hayward is being used to stretch the floor and drive through open lanes.
Burke isn't going to hit the next level until the Favors/Kanter pick and roll is established as a primary option, with a Hayward shot or drive as the second option.
From the first preseason game, I honestly can't tell what the primary and secondary options are for each play - and while the offensive mash-up is exciting to watch, it also resulted in the Kanter 15 foot jumpers that were pretty inefficient.
Burke isn't going to hit the next level until the Favors/Kanter pick and roll is established as a primary option, with a Hayward shot or drive as the second option.
From the first preseason game, I honestly can't tell what the primary and secondary options are for each play - and while the offensive mash-up is exciting to watch, it also resulted in the Kanter 15 foot jumpers that were pretty inefficient.
The reason he had three assists is because Hayward had 8 if I remember correctly. Hayward is being used as the primary playmaker right now, and it makes sense as to why - he knows all the aspects of the offense and has played with the bigs for three years. If Burke was being used as the primary playmaker, we would have seen his assist numbers double.
The 0 FTs are "concerning" in the sense that they're an indication that Burke hasn't learned how to finish at the rim yet in the NBA. (Though we saw a couple of good tries.) He needs some additional circus moves and needs to know how to get around opposing bigs - his first step looked great and he was able to use screens effectively, but ran into problems when he got to the bigs and help defenders. That's just going to take some time.
He'll make it easier on himself if he can figure out how to pass quickly and effectively out of the drive and dish to a big - I didn't see any of that in the preseason game.
SojoDave
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I'm hoping that Burke and Favors develop a good pick 'n roll and Kanter pick 'n pop on either side of the floor. It seemed they tried to run it a few times, but they were way too far out on the floor to be effective. I think the culprit is Ty, he seems like he is reluctant to run the P'NR offense and reverts to "let's throw the ball around and see who is brave enough to shoot it offense".
Sexual Favors
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Kanter shot 4/5 on the game, dude--that's 80%!!! Are you saying that shot is an inefficient shot for most players? Yes, it is. But Kanter has range, and the sooner he gets comfortable using it, the better spaced the entire offense will be. If he's making them, why complain?
Don't get me wrong, it shouldn't be his only shot, but should occasionally used as a weapon. I missed Kanter's aggressiveness on the offensive glass in the game, and all his quick pump fakes and put backs.
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Sexual Favors
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According to Corbin's interview, the playmaking roles are supposed to be split between Hayward and Trey right now. The fact that Hayward had more assists are due to his playmaking skills being more efficient, and not that Gordon is the primary playmaker ('cause he isn't supposed to be).
As for the drive and dish, I agree. Right now, Trey is driving the lane w/o a plan, and then runs into trouble because it becomes clogged. I think Kanter occasionally stepping out (like he has been), will draw a defender out, thus making a finish, or a drop off to Favors easier in the future.
He is showing progress, seems more relaxed, and very eager to learn from his mistakes: all very good signs.
Sexual Favors
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Yeah, that's another thing. His speed looked more NBA-esque.
Yeah, I was referencing the shot selection more than Kanter. And while I love Kanter and his game, the 4/5 shooting masks the three turnovers he had where he got stuck in Alfense mode on the left block and lost the ball. At this point, I'd be more eager to see Burke/Favors pick and rolls than Kanter on the left block - whenever he's there with the ball in his hands, I'm more nervous than excited.
Sexual Favors
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Yeah, I edited my original post and explained a little more.
I agree with wanting to see some more PnR, drive and dish, and pick and pops, etc. However, this is pteseason, and a good time for Kanter to test his range and some of the stuff Al has taught him. I know Kanter is T/O prone, but cut the guy a break, he hasn't been able to play hardly any basketball for 6 months. Considering Kanter's sporatic playing career (HS, College, NBA dnps, injury etc.), I think it is amazing that he is as efficient as he is. To me, Kanter is our most tantilizing player, and I have no fear that he will end up like Al just because he tries some of his moves--his game already exceeds Als.