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Would you trade Elder Hayward for....

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Shad

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A top 7 pick in this years draft(not including the one we will most likely get already)?
 
Extremely tough question imo.

Will have to wait till like january to answer.

I guess if I had to answer right now I would say no
 
Top 7 yes. We'd get another stud under our control for 4 more years.

If we get Wiggins or Parker how can Hayward get the max, and we still keep Kanter?

I like Hay, but I'm not sold on him over everyone else. If we get one of the top 2 guys, all we need is to get a shooter to go along side.
Hay would be great to have, but not necessary in this scenario.
 
Draft, no, absolutely not. Trade in a known quantity on another crap shoot? Terrible play there. Now, trade him and maybe other assets for an established player that is already performing at a higher level? Well that you would have to consider.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Top 7 yes. We'd get another stud under our control for 4 more years.

If we get Wiggins or Parker how can Hayward get the max, and we still keep Kanter?

I like Hay, but I'm not sold on him over everyone else. If we get one of the top 2 guys, all we need is to get a shooter to go along side.
Hay would be great to have, but not necessary in this scenario.
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Whoever we pick in the draft doesn't have to get paid for 4 years. Hayward is looking like a sure thing. I love Kanter, but he has some growing to do before he's a max guy. I say you pay Hayward, and Kanter when it is time, and you let the team build chemistry, trading the excess when necessary. Sucha move now is VERY premature.

And I think you are dead wrong in believing Hay isn't necessary. As of now, he is the only player we have who I feel we absolutely must keep.
 
Without an exact fact situation these questions are pretty irrelevant, and impossible to answer rationally. But I'll say no. I would rather the Jazz not be in a constant state of development. Pure speculation though because we don't know the facts. These questions are silly.
 
The problem is the Jazz can't.

No guarantee a pick will be top 7 if you trade it this year, and the Jazz can't trade Hayward after the trade deadline.

And no team in their right mind is going to trade for an RFA using an unprotected draft pick if they're already in the top7 range to begin with.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
The problem is the Jazz can't.

No guarantee a pick will be top 7 if you trade it this year, and the Jazz can't trade Hayward after the trade deadline.

And no team in their right mind is going to trade for an RFA using an unprotected draft pick if they're already in the top7 range to begin with.
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By the deadline we should have a good idea of who will be at that spot. But as you said I don think a team trades their pick for Hayward


If they traded it unprotected we'd be stupid to pass. More combinations toget our guy top 3.

Could be a Cavs situation that got them Kyrie.
 
Jazzfan0124 said:
yea, because he'll be gone anyway.
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Why do people think this?


He is a RESTRICTRED Free Agent
We have more cap room than almost every team.
We can offer him more money(legally), and a whole nother year on a contract (new CBA)
We can match any offer any team throws at him.
The only other contract negotiation coming up in next 2 yrs. is Kanter's (Burks isn't playing well enough to really worry about losing him).
Whoever we draft doesn't have to be negotiated for 4 yrs after they are drafted.
Next year will be much improved team, and Hayward knows that. He also knows this gutting of the roster was done so he and the other young guys could prove their worth.
Hayward says he likes it here, and the community likes him back.
There was no bad blood from no deal. We offered him what his stats last year dictated, he said he could do better. We will pay what he's worth, even if that's a max.
 
Sexual Favors said:
Why do people think this?


He is a RESTRICTRED Free Agent
We have more cap room than almost every team.
We can offer him more money(legally), and a whole nother year on a contract (new CBA)
We can match any offer any team throws at him.
The only other contract negotiation coming up in next 2 yrs. is Kanter's (Burks isn't playing well enough to really worry about losing him).
Whoever we draft doesn't have to be negotiated for 4 yrs after they are drafted.
Next year will be much improved team, and Hayward knows that. He also knows this gutting of the roster was done so he and the other young guys could prove their worth.
Hayward says he likes it here, and the community likes him back.
There was no bad blood from no deal. We offered him what his stats last year dictated, he said he could do better. We will pay what he's worth, even if that's a max.
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Because we don't want to overpay him to keep him. Same reason Brandon Jennings was let go and why Rudy gay was a guy they kept trying to trade and why joe Johnson was such a bad contract.

None of those guys are bad players but if they are paid to much it hurts the team.

I'm not saying we don't want him but there is a real possibility he gets overpaid and we decide not to match.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];697821 said:
It's nothing like the Cavs situation that got them Kyrie.

Hayward is playing well. He's young. Timetodumphimiguess.
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If dumping him gives me a better chance at a generational talent or a player better than him say Aaron Gordon, yep.

I just don't see Hayward being as good as some do. I think he will get paid based on stats on a crap team. Meanwhile he'd still be the 3rd or 4th best player on a champ team making max money.

And I mean it's like the Cavs situation in that the clips pick is the one that won. You knew that though.
 
Lattimer said:
Because we don't want to overpay him to keep him. Same reason Brandon Jennings was let go and why Rudy gay was a guy they kept trying to trade and why joe Johnson was such a bad contract.

None of those guys are bad players but if they are paid to much it hurts the team.

I'm not saying we don't want him but there is a real possibility he gets overpaid and we decide not to match.
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Hayward's intangibles are incomparable to all of those guys. Hayward is in his way to playing like a max player. We have the cap room, he is young: this conversation is premature.

Hayward is also playing better than all of those guys, and is younger.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
The problem is the Jazz can't.

No guarantee a pick will be top 7 if you trade it this year, and the Jazz can't trade Hayward after the trade deadline.

And no team in their right mind is going to trade for an RFA using an unprotected draft pick if they're already in the top7 range to begin with.
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The Bobcats might.
 
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