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Utah @ Oregon, Sat. 11/16 @ 2pm MT, Fox Sports 1

It all boils down to this: We all wanted a bowl game this year. We are playing how most of us thought we would play. We all were hoping for 3-1 to start the year, we were hoping for one win vs UCLA, USC, ASU, or Arizona (we didn't get it, but we did get Stanford), and then we were hoping for two wins to end the year to get us bowl eligible.

We are right on track.

I think the Stanford game might have been the rare game that actually HURT both teams. It gave Ute fans unrealistic expectations, and knocked Stanford out of the title game (well, until tonight, that is).

We are right on track DESPITE all the adversity we have faced. We all WANTED 6-6 before the season. If you were told back in August that Wilson, Scott, York, Murphy, and Tonga (45%, yes, FORTY FIVE FREAKING PERCENT of the offense) would be injured, would ANYONE expect a bowl?

Then toss in defensive injuries...IT IS A MIRACLE we are still on track.

If Wilson is hurt, that changes everything.

If Wilson is 100% healthy, we WILL be bowling, which means the season was an AMAZING SUCCESS.
 
It's funny. Thriller posts how un-rational Ute fan posts. I thought he was a Ute fan for the longest time. I like his in game analysis, but I think his post game whining about coaches is a little over the top.

To me, he sounds like Ute fan who became a Ute fan when they started to beat BYU, and now is mad because BYU plays a weak *** schedule and wins, and BYU fan tells him going to a bowl makes BYU the better team.
 
green said:
It's funny. Thriller posts how un-rational Ute fan posts. I thought he was a Ute fan for the longest time. I like his in game analysis, but I think his post game whining about coaches is a little over the top.

To me, he sounds like Ute fan who became a Ute fan when they started to beat BYU, and now is mad because BYU plays a weak *** schedule and wins, and BYU fan tells him going to a bowl makes BYU the better team.
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I'm a college football fan who is fed up with the mediocrity of the football in this state, especially at the University of Utah. BYU has the missionary program and Honor Code to deal with. Mediocrity might be their ceiling. Utah St is in Logan, plays in the Mtn West, and no longer has Anderson or Chuckie. Mediocrity should be their goal.

So what's holding Utah back?

Everyone is free to share their opinion. But the Utes aren't 6-6. And the way Wash St is playing, they won't be. If this is being "on the right track" then i rest my case, Kyle McBride... I mean Ron Whittingham... Needs to go. He got this program to compete well in the Mtn West Conference. He even won a BCS bowl! But, It is time to find a new Urban Meyer, who can take this program to the next level. It's painfully obvious that this program isn't progressing at all. I love the dude. I think he's a darn good coach for a non-BCS conference. But now, he's in his 3rd year of the big leagues and hasn't improved at all!

The mere fact that many are currently debating whether to pull the plug on Wilson and rip the red shirt off the kid tells you everything you need to know about this program.

No direction. No improvement.

Just show up, defense play well, and offense suck it up, and that's a wrap! Same story for 3+ years now!

We can keep rotating QBs and playing musical offensive coordinator. But at some point the ax has to fall on the guy who is ultimately responsible for his program, right? Why is everyone else held accountable but Whittingham?

So go ahead. Keep Kyle. And we'll hear the exact same lame *** excuses as we've heard since Brian Johnson graduated. "Well once we get an OC! Well once our QBs get healthy! Well, we will just have to recruit better!" Rinse, wash, repeat
 
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The Thriller said:
So if you're a Utah fan and want to stay this course, go right on ahead.
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Oh good hell. What choice do I have? Like I could do anything about my fandom or the plans and strategy of the AD of Utah sports.
I don't agree with your critique, and I'd rather be the fan of a school who has an outside chance of big time success on a larger stage than not.
But this is just a silly comment. Then again... not altogether unexpected, considering the source.
 
.....And the 2 game stretch to see if Whit can save his job begins. Fellow Ute fans can tell me all they want that Whit is safe, but I feel very confident that if Utah doesn't win out and get to a bowl, Whit is done. Hell, if you can't beat Wazzu and Colorado to save your job, you should be fired.
 
The Thriller said:
I'm a college football fan who is fed up with the mediocrity of the football in this state, especially at the University of Utah. BYU has the missionary program and Honor Code to deal with. Mediocrity might be their ceiling. Utah St is in Logan, plays in the Mtn West, and no longer has Anderson or Chuckie. Mediocrity should be their goal.

So what's holding Utah back?

Everyone is free to share their opinion. But the Utes aren't 6-6. And the way Wash St is playing, they won't be. If this is being "on the right track" then i rest my case, Kyle McBride... I mean Ron Whittingham... Needs to go. He got this program to compete well in the Mtn West Conference. He even won a BCS bowl! But, It is time to find a new Urban Meyer, who can take this program to the next level. It's painfully obvious that this program isn't progressing at all. I love the dude. I think he's a darn good coach for a non-BCS conference. But now, he's in his 3rd year of the big leagues and hasn't improved at all!

The mere fact that many are currently debating whether to pull the plug on Wilson and rip the red shirt off the kid tells you everything you need to know about this program.

No direction. No improvement.

Just show up, defense play well, and offense suck it up, and that's a wrap! Same story for 3+ years now!

We can keep rotating QBs and playing musical offensive coordinator. But at some point the ax has to fall on the guy who is ultimately responsible for his program, right? Why is everyone else held accountable but Whittingham?

So go ahead. Keep Kyle. And we'll hear the exact same lame *** excuses as we've heard since Brian Johnson graduated. "Well once we get an OC! Well once our QBs get healthy! Well, we will just have to recruit better!" Rinse, wash, repeat
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I think Utah's problems have more to do with the move to a better conference than it does with the coach. When Utah was in the mountain west they only had a few tough opponents. Now in the the PAC12 there are only a handful of weeks off. The PAC12 might be the second toughest conference. Sometimes it is better to be the big fish in a smaller pond than just another fish in the sea.
 
jazzman12 said:
.....And the 2 game stretch to see if Whit can save his job begins. Fellow Ute fans can tell me all they want that Whit is safe, but I feel very confident that if Utah doesn't win out and get to a bowl, Whit is done. Hell, if you can't beat Wazzu and Colorado to save your job, you should be fired.
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This. Whitt has had a lot of bad luck this year. To lose half of your projected starting offense to injuries...rough. NOW, these last two games are games Utah can win. And with how they have played against UCLA, OSU, USC, Stanford and to some extent Oregon, he has done an ok job. BUT, here is the real test. If he hasn't lost the team through all the adversity this year, and they go out and beat WSU and Colorado, then he deserves to stay.

BUT, if Wilson isn't hurt, but has quit the team, if they go out and lose to WSU...then Whitt has lost the team. He is a GREAT coach, and whoever hires him (if it is as a HC in a non-BCS) will be winning 10+ games a year in no time or if he becomes a DC, then they will have the top defense in the country. BUT, if he has lost the team, there isn't much you can do with him here. It sucks, but it is what it is.
 
green said:
This. Whitt has had a lot of bad luck this year. To lose half of your projected starting offense to injuries...rough. NOW, these last two games are games Utah can win. And with how they have played against UCLA, OSU, USC, Stanford and to some extent Oregon, he has done an ok job. BUT, here is the real test. If he hasn't lost the team through all the adversity this year, and they go out and beat WSU and Colorado, then he deserves to stay.

BUT, if Wilson isn't hurt, but has quit the team, if they go out and lose to WSU...then Whitt has lost the team. He is a GREAT coach, and whoever hires him (if it is as a HC in a non-BCS) will be winning 10+ games a year in no time or if he becomes a DC, then they will have the top defense in the country. BUT, if he has lost the team, there isn't much you can do with him here. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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Whit's luck has been crap, I'll give you that. I'm rooting as hard as I ever have for Whit to save his job. Now there's whispers that Travis Wilson might be done forever. This season couldn't get any more strange.
 
jazzman12 said:
Whit's luck has been crap, I'll give you that. I'm rooting as hard as I ever have for Whit to save his job. Now there's whispers that Travis Wilson might be done forever. This season couldn't get any more strange.
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What's going on with Wilson? I missed the game last week.
 
WhiskyPriest said:
What's going on with Wilson? I missed the game last week.
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I guess he's got a concussion. I've heard everything from shutting him down for the rest of the year to he might shut it down for good.

This may sound horrible but I don't think Wilson is the answer. Utah might be better suited heading into spring trying to decide between Cox and Conner Manning.
 
He has never been concussed before right? Just seems weird they would shut him down for that if it's strike 1. Kyle's quote was interesting though; It almost made sound like they found out dude has cancer or something. Hopefully nothing too serious, but he has had a tough year regardless. Best friend dies....all the injuries. My guess it's just the cumulative toll of all that that's the issue. Not that one particular injury is so serious.
 
Travis Wilson is quickly becoming Jordan Wynn II.

Constantly injured, mentally weak, and unable to make just basic throws.
 
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