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When is this a wasted season?

infection said:
I think DL is a reasonable guy but I don't know how much, if any, final say he has. I think the rest of the FO is okay with the tank, but only passively -- which isn't too surprising as mostly everything the franchise has done since Larry stepped down / died has been passive. I'm still uncertain of Corbin's fate with the franchise and how much say DL has in that. Burks, Gobert and especially Kanter can play more and as you said, it's win-win. There's absolutely no argument not to play those guys. Being inexperienced or not ready doesn't even apply (que "teh efforts!!!").
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I think that we saw Lindsey take the reigns this offseason. The Jazz have appeared to be much more aggressive and foward thinking once Sloan left and KOC stepped back. Lindsey may have input now from Corbin, Sloan, KOC, Rigby and miller but I think he is running the show now. I hope so at least lol.
 
Do the Jazz still play?

I haven't seen a game in maybe a month or two.

I merely just check box scores and this forum to see if we lost.

Wake me up when next season begins and we have a franchise player.
 
If we don't trade Marvin and Jefferson asap!

If let Corbin enough games to prove that he is a decent coach and has a chance to stay next year!

If we spoil the tank letting in the game veterans as Marvin and Jeff!

If Enes become just a solid bench player!
 
The Thriller said:
Do the Jazz still play?

I haven't seen a game in maybe a month or two.

I merely just check box scores and this forum to see if we lost.

Wake me up when next season begins and we have a franchise player.
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nah. You can stay asleep and miss it all.
 
Diamond77 said:
If we don't trade Marvin and Jefferson asap!

If let Corbin enough games to prove that he is a decent coach and has a chance to stay next year!

If we spoil the tank letting in the game veterans as Marvin and Jeff!

If Enes become just a solid bench player!
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I'm sorry but including this one is just silly. Way to early to tell and if he does and Burks, Hayward, Favors and Burke are all legit is it still a wasted season?
 
Stoked said:
nah. You can stay asleep and miss it all.
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If we don't obtain a franchise player I think most here in Utah will remain asleep. There are a ton of "fans" disguised in green seats. I've never seen so much green in the Delta Center. Literally, no one talks about the Jazz anymore. Fandom is at an all time low, IMO. If the Utes make a run in the next year or so while the jazz remain boring and suck, they will continue to dig a deeper hole for themselves.

If the jazz hope to remain in this market then they need to obtain a franchise player this summer. It's that simple. 3 straight poor/mediocre seasons without any real hope of improving drastically by obtaining a franchise player who can sell jerseys and tickets will spell doom for this small market franchise.
 
Stoked said:
I'm sorry but including this one is just silly. Way to early to tell and if he does and Burks, Hayward, Favors and Burke are all legit is it still a wasted season?
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What does it mean legit? Role players? We need All-Star caliber players!
 
It's wasted when/if the Jazz don't have at least one real franchise player either in the upcoming draft or out of the guys already on the roster. It's kind of sad that Trey looks to be far and away the best of those players already (and I'm not dogging on Trey).
 
NUMBERICA said:
It's kind of sad that Trey looks to be far and away the best of those players already (and I'm not dogging on Trey).
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I think trey is not far and away our best player, I think alec, and favors have looked very good for a decent amount of games too.... but we still need that superstar cause burks burke and favor playing pretty good ain't enough
 
fishonjazz said:
I think trey is not far and away our best player, I think alec, and favors have looked very good for a decent amount of games too.... but we still need that superstar cause burks burke and favor playing pretty good ain't enough
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Burke is playing in a manner that the Jazz haven't had since Deron. It's not a strictly positional thing, and I'm not saying he's an all-star (yet), either. The Jazz haven't had a ballhandler that can bend a game to his will with anywhere near the quality of Burke. That applies to Hayward, Burks, Harris, and Mo. He's not exactly Stockton or Malone-esque in terms of consistency, but he's more consistently good than anyone else on the current team as well (except for maybe Marvin, who has an entire career of underperformance and his own inconsistency issues to answer for), regardless of position.

Burke's had a few poor games while Hayward's had vast stretches where he can't score efficiently and Burks has still blown terribly for half of this season. Kanter is going for some sort of negative +/- record and you never quite know what you're getting out of Favors on a given night. I feel I know what I'm getting out of Trey already, as a rookie.

So yes, far and away.

All that said, you can bet your god damn balls I don't want to win a lot of games this year with this roster.
 
We're no longer guaranteed to be the worst team of all time, so as long as we lose our next 48 games, we're good.
 
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