When is this a wasted season?

[Stoked]

Basically any record that gets us a 9-14 pick and a crappy free agency period will constitute a failed season. They need to get aggressive somehow, and show they are serious about putting a winning team on the floor. Another mediocre season followed by another passive off season will constitute a failed season and set us up for years of crap.

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With the way that Lindsey handled the last offseason I am fairly optimistic that he will be aggressive in this upcoming offseason. Don't let me down Lindsey. Strengthen the tank and grab the future!

 

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[zman1527]

Forward thinking? forward thinking?? Tyrone Kennedy Corbin is far and away the least forward-thinking individual on the planet. Given our circumstance, playing Richard Jefferson 40 minutes so we can beat the HornCats is the opposite of forward thinking.

Playing Raja Bell, Josh Howard, C.J. Miles, Earl Watson, Jamal Tinsley, etc. anything more than garbage minutes the past three seasons at the expense of developing young talent is not forward thinking.

You know what franchise is forward-thinking? The Golden State Warriors. When they acquired young talent via the draft, they did what they could to DEVELOP that young talent into playmakers. Our very own Richard Jefferson rarely saw the court in the Bay Area because Mark Jackson and Co. were trying to accomplish the very thing Ty Corbin is too dumb to do: forward thinking. They knew the youth they had on that team was capable of developing into a legitimate playoff-caliber team. The W's have had their challenges so far this season but there's no denying their long-term outlook is very positive, largely because the growth of their youth was not stunted from being benched in favor of washed up, hack vets.

I loved the moves Dennis Lindsey made over the summer. They indeed showed forward thinking. I even thought to myself, "This is perfect. Not even Corbin is dumb enough to screw this up." Little did I know.

Lindsey can still show some big time forward thinking and right this mess before it's too late. He's got to know the only way this franchise will ever become anything worth caring about is by getting a star. Well, this just happens to be the ideal draft for getting one of those. By far, the most forward-thinking thing we could possibly do right now is TANK. I don't want to hear anything about "honor". In today's NBA, only two types of teams accomplish anything worth a damn: teams that can sign star free agents like Miami (NOT the Jazz), and teams that TANK like San Antonio. Meanwhile, the "honorable" teams wallow in mediocrity. The Jazz have a rare opportunity NOW and who knows if we'll ever get it again.

So the OP asks, "When is this a wasted season?"

If we don't get ourselves into position to draft a super star, this season is a waste. It's as simple as that. We have too ideal a situation to let such a very rare opportunity like this get away. It's all right there for the taking.

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Agree completely. The big issue is that if this is a failed season and they don't develop and/or get a high draft pick, it could easily turn into a failed decade, and maybe a failed franchise. That is what Corbin may accomplish by going for 3 or 4 more wins. To what point? Honor and glory?

 

[zman1527]

Burke is playing in a manner that the Jazz haven't had since Deron. It's not a strictly positional thing, and I'm not saying he's an all-star (yet), either. The Jazz haven't had a ballhandler that can bend a game to his will with anywhere near the quality of Burke. That applies to Hayward, Burks, Harris, and Mo. He's not exactly Stockton or Malone-esque in terms of consistency, but he's more consistently good than anyone else on the current team as well (except for maybe Marvin, who has an entire career of underperformance and his own inconsistency issues to answer for), regardless of position.

Burke's had a few poor games while Hayward's had vast stretches where he can't score efficiently and Burks has still blown terribly for half of this season. Kanter is going for some sort of negative +/- record and you never quite know what you're getting out of Favors on a given night. I feel I know what I'm getting out of Trey already, as a rookie.

So yes, far and away.a

All that said, you can bet your god damn balls I don't want to win a lot of games this year with this roster.

Trey seems to be mentally the strongest of them all as well. A gamer kinda like Deron and able to make big plays and big shots in the clutch. Deron was more of a warrior, Trey seems more like a cool assassin.