Kevin Pelton (ESPN) on Jazz
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Paging Dr. Colton...
TheSilencer1313
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Oh please, because your post was way over the top bro.
What if you leave an ellipse to end a sentence...?
Sometimes its nice to see if it's worth reading by other people's opinion. If I see a big article and comments that say "good read" I will take the time. If people comment that it isn't that good, I might not read it.
You're impressed by authority, not reason. Fine by me.
On the one side we have candrew and Cambridge.
On the other side there's me, Merriam-Webster, Dictionary.com, American Heritage, FreeDictionary, and MacMillan (I didn't look further).
Is that enough authority for you?
Then you don't add the ending punctuation.
candrew
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Yes, specifically your lack thereof.
How typical you ended with a pointless diminutive. Double points for failing to acknowledge that, despite my lack of authority, I was actually correct in my analysis. If you were trying to show that you were petty and unconcerned with truth, you did a splendid job.
touche
LOL....
I counter that by stating emphatically that methinks cambridge dictionary 'tis brimming with poop.
Call me old school, but naming a "connnector interjection" a "conjunctive adverb" just degrades adverbs into a catch-all part of speech
But I digress.....
https://www.wordreference.com/definition/alas
LOL....
I counter that by stating emphatically that methinks cambridge dictionary 'tis brimming with poop.
Call me old school, but naming a "connnector interjection" a "conjunctive adverb" just degrades adverbs into a catch-all part of speech
But I digress.....
https://www.wordreference.com/definition/alas
Oh One Brow.....
My posts are all tongue-in-cheek and I conceded to candrew's point with my "touche" and my facetious counterargument. So first, I tip my hat to candrew, for his accurate correction of my earlier post and his respectful and cogent arguments.
One Brow, on the other hand (perhaps in jest?) has gone off the deep end by claiming that alas is neither adverb nor conjunction, because it can be separated with a comma.
You can find similar explanations all over the web from reputable sources, here is one that sums it up nicely:
"Sentence connectors join whole statements in clause or sentence form. Because some of these relationship words have adverbial forms (obviously, naturally, unfortunately), they are sometimes called conjunctive adverbs. The most common sentence connectors are therefore, however, consequently, thus, then, in fact, moreover, nevertheless, so, in addition, meanwhile."
https://www.zaneeducation.com/education/literary-arts/sentence-connectors-and-interjection.php
Also, https://www.writingcentre.uottawa.ca/hypergrammar/adverbs.html
Moreover, the notion that an adverb can only change the tone of a word and not the tone of a sentence is pure comedy.
Wikipedia gets this one right: "An adverb is a word that changes or qualifies the meaning of a verb, adjective, other adverb, clause, sentence or any other word or phrase...."
My posts are all tongue-in-cheek and I conceded to candrew's point with my "touche" and my facetious counterargument. So first, I tip my hat to candrew, for his accurate correction of my earlier post and his respectful and cogent arguments.
One Brow, on the other hand (perhaps in jest?) has gone off the deep end by claiming that alas is neither adverb nor conjunction, because it can be separated with a comma.
You can find similar explanations all over the web from reputable sources, here is one that sums it up nicely:
"Sentence connectors join whole statements in clause or sentence form. Because some of these relationship words have adverbial forms (obviously, naturally, unfortunately), they are sometimes called conjunctive adverbs. The most common sentence connectors are therefore, however, consequently, thus, then, in fact, moreover, nevertheless, so, in addition, meanwhile."
https://www.zaneeducation.com/education/literary-arts/sentence-connectors-and-interjection.php
Also, https://www.writingcentre.uottawa.ca/hypergrammar/adverbs.html
Moreover, the notion that an adverb can only change the tone of a word and not the tone of a sentence is pure comedy.
Wikipedia gets this one right: "An adverb is a word that changes or qualifies the meaning of a verb, adjective, other adverb, clause, sentence or any other word or phrase...."
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Tyranny of the 'or'
English is full of words that fall into multiple parts of speech.
Alas can be used as a connector, as was done in the original Jazzfanz quote. It can also be used as an interjection, as in "Alas, he is already dead"
From OneBrow's source, Dictionary.com
"alas (əˈlæs)
— sentence connector
1. unfortunately; regrettably: there were, alas, none left"
English is full of words that fall into multiple parts of speech.
Alas can be used as a connector, as was done in the original Jazzfanz quote. It can also be used as an interjection, as in "Alas, he is already dead"
From OneBrow's source, Dictionary.com
"alas (əˈlæs)
— sentence connector
1. unfortunately; regrettably: there were, alas, none left"