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Who's the odd man out?

Which player likely doesn't have a future with the Jazz?

  • Trey Burke

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Alec Burks

    Votes: 11 25.6%

  • Gordon Hayward

    Votes: 10 23.3%

  • Enes Kanter

    Votes: 22 51.2%
  • Total voters
    43
JAZZGASM said:
If we have Burke, Hayward, Burks, Enes, Favors, and Parker/Wiggins, etc., can the Miller family afford to keep them all?

Next year's salary cap is expected to be 62.1 million. Looking at locking these guys up long term I would project the following

Favors (13m ), Kanter (6-8m for next two seasons, 10+ after) Hayward (11m), Burks (3 and 4.5 for next two years then 7m+) Burke (locked up through 17/18 at 4.5 or less) (draft pick) (5-9m per year over 4 years).

Next year we are looking at 44m for 5 core players. Leaving 18m to the cap for the rest. This is reasonable.

Fast forward a couple years and these five will be making an estimated 53m. If the salary cap doesn't go up, we either have a ****ty bench, pay excise tax or we let someone go.

Based on the next 3 seasons, Kanter, Burke and Burks are a bargain, but that could also make them good trade assets.

I think we have the cap room to keep everyone next year and see how things fit.
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Short run won't be a problem. (BTW, your rookie scale is not correct.)

Best case long run scenario is creating the situation that OKC was in except choosing more wisely. A couple things on the money points -- The Jazz are owned by 1 family that makes money off the Jazz outside of basketball and not an investment group that needs the franchise to turn a profit. They can afford a payroll much higher than the cap, and even to pay LT for a few years. Also, new revenue sharing may up the Jazz' portion received from $5mm to $16mm. If they could afford LT for a year or so before then they can surely afford to go up to at least the LT line without ANY issues now.

In addition to revenue sharing is the LT pool -- they are separate pools. Spending the LT money is tbd each year, and is another potential revenue influx into the Jazz organization, or could be invested to lower league-wide operating costs.
 
Kanter is the only player of the Core5 that have All-Star potential but despite that most people here don't see him as a part of the Jazz future.

Typical Jazz loser mentality.
 
Diamond77 said:
Kanter is the only player of the Core5 that have All-Star potential but despite that most people here don't see him as a part of the Jazz future.

Typical Jazz loser mentality.
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I actually see the potential in every one of the core five to be an all star.

Typical jazz homerism
 
I actually think Kanter won't realize his potential because his BBIQ is not high enough. Or it's Corbin making him look really bad.
 
Sirkickyass said:
I suspect Hayward's future with the team is entirely dependent on what kind of offer Boston or another team throws his way rather than on anything related to the draft.

It's somewhat clear that if Hayward gets a max offer the Jazz are not particularly inclined to match.
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Agree with this If price is too high then its Hayward, otherwise if I can pick two it will be Kanter -corbin just doesn't know how to use him. Watch this space if we trade Kanter we'll get beat up each time we play him and his new team.
 
The Jazz have cap space and time on their side. I think they should. . .

A.) Get through the trade deadline and hopefully make some moves to add assets from Marvin, Jefferson and/or Rush.
B.) Finish out the season featuring the Core5 and then hire a new coach (hopefully someone who will run more and use the altitude to their advantage.)
C.) See exactly where they land in the lottery and then pick the best players available with every selection.
D.) Hit free agency and see exactly what Hayward actually gets offered on the open market. . . then choose to match/not match or facilitate a sign & trade to pick up more assets.
E.) Use their left-over cap space to pull off another deal like last year with Golden State to help a team make the room under the cap that they need to play in free agency for 2014.
F.) Move on from any of JLIII, Jefferson, Biedrins and Rush if they're still on the team.
G.) Look at bringing back Marvin depending on what the cost will be. If contract offers are comparable, he might choose to either stay or come back (if he's traded by the deadline.)
H.) Spend another season evaluating the Core5 guys (plus Gobert) together along with the new draft picks added to the mix AND THEN really decide which five players are the best fit for the future. Build around those guys and try to trade the guys who don't fit.

I just don't think that they have enough information yet to make those types of decisions with success.
 
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