14th Tank Platoon
- Thread starter Primetime
- Start date
Philly with a win in NY. A fine evening it is.
Anyone know why Favors was absent from that T'Wolves game?
LOL.. are you serious right now?
I bet Lindsey's like: "Hey Hayward, we'll give you Favors' money. But you guys must do what we say from now on and alternate this injury thing until we get Jabari."
Doublea
Well-Known Member
It was reported as a hip abductor strain.
UGLI baby
Well-Known Member
****.
Not a prayer that we hold off Sacto now.
Hurts because they fall into the "not very good but trying" camp more than the tanking camp, but if these injuries are srs (sounds like Gay's is), they will drop to the Sixers, Lakers, Celtics level of tanking which is just above the Bucks and Magic level.
Not a prayer that we hold off Sacto now.
Hurts because they fall into the "not very good but trying" camp more than the tanking camp, but if these injuries are srs (sounds like Gay's is), they will drop to the Sixers, Lakers, Celtics level of tanking which is just above the Bucks and Magic level.
UGLI baby
Well-Known Member
UGLI's Tank Radar
Elite Tank. Unstoppable.
Bucks
Magic
Soon to be Elite Tank
Sixers- Zero doubt they will start unloading talent soon. They are willing tankers, but have too many good players right now. That will change.
Celtics- Damn that dirty Zoob Ainge. They will continue to shed any talent they have.
Up in the air, tbh
Lakers- I honestly don't know if they are going to intentionally tank, but they are bad enough that they might not have to if Kobe doesn't return soon'ish.
Kings- I think they want to win, and they can't really afford to alienate fans with tanking. Problem is, they are the Kings and if Gay's injury is srs or Cousins misses time, they won't have to try and tank.
Saved by teh trades
Knicks- They can't tank, they don't own their pick. Lets hope they aren't so bad it doesnt matter. I'm still not worried about these guys.
Pelicans- Their pick is top 5 protected, but throwing away the season and doing everything they can to get a top 5 pick just seems incredibly risky. They could try everything possible and still finish 6th or 7th. I see it being more likely that they get some of their guys back and go on a little mini surge later in the season.
Sucky teams making a #playoffpush
Cleveland- They are obviously making a playoff push with the Deng trade, but damn they suck. Irving could be lost for the season at any time too. Fragile dude.
Detroit- Not really that worried, but they still have the potential to fall.
Charlotte- They are the Bobcats.
Right now I see Milwaukee, Orlando, Philadelphia, and Boston as teams that will for sure finish with a worse record than us, and the Lakers and Kings as teams that I would bet on to finish below the Jazz, leaving us at #7 headed into the lottery.
Elite Tank. Unstoppable.
Bucks
Magic
Soon to be Elite Tank
Sixers- Zero doubt they will start unloading talent soon. They are willing tankers, but have too many good players right now. That will change.
Celtics- Damn that dirty Zoob Ainge. They will continue to shed any talent they have.
Up in the air, tbh
Lakers- I honestly don't know if they are going to intentionally tank, but they are bad enough that they might not have to if Kobe doesn't return soon'ish.
Kings- I think they want to win, and they can't really afford to alienate fans with tanking. Problem is, they are the Kings and if Gay's injury is srs or Cousins misses time, they won't have to try and tank.
Saved by teh trades
Knicks- They can't tank, they don't own their pick. Lets hope they aren't so bad it doesnt matter. I'm still not worried about these guys.
Pelicans- Their pick is top 5 protected, but throwing away the season and doing everything they can to get a top 5 pick just seems incredibly risky. They could try everything possible and still finish 6th or 7th. I see it being more likely that they get some of their guys back and go on a little mini surge later in the season.
Sucky teams making a #playoffpush
Cleveland- They are obviously making a playoff push with the Deng trade, but damn they suck. Irving could be lost for the season at any time too. Fragile dude.
Detroit- Not really that worried, but they still have the potential to fall.
Charlotte- They are the Bobcats.
Right now I see Milwaukee, Orlando, Philadelphia, and Boston as teams that will for sure finish with a worse record than us, and the Lakers and Kings as teams that I would bet on to finish below the Jazz, leaving us at #7 headed into the lottery.
Primetime
Active Member
Update!
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[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]Team[/td]
[td]Conf.[/td]
[td]win[/td]
[td]loss[/td]
[td]win pct.[/td]
[td]tank alert(last 10 games)[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]Milwaukee Bucks[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]8[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td].195[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]Orlando Magic[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]11[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td].256[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]Utah Jazz[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]14[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td].326[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]34th[/td]
[td]Philadelphia 76ers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]14[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td].333[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]Boston Celtics[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td].341[/td]
[td]2-8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]Cleveland Cavaliers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]New York Knicks*2[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]Sacramento Kings*6[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td].366[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]L.A. Lakers[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]16[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td].381[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]New Orleans Pelicans*1[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]16[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td].390[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]Detroit Pistons*5[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]17[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td].405[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]Minnesota Timberwolves*9[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td].488[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]13th[/td]
[td]Denver Nuggets*3[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td].500[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td]Memphis Grizzlies[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td].500[/td]
[td]7-3[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
Goden State Warriors: 23rd
*1 Philadelphia 76ers: Receives New Orleans Pelicans 2014 first-round pick (1-5 protected in 2014) via Jrue Holiday trade on 7/10/13.
*2 Denver Nuggets: Receives New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Carmelo Anthony trade on 02/22/11.
*3 Orlando Magic: Receives less favorable of Denver Nuggets/New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Dwight Howard trade on 8/10/12.
*4 Phoenix Suns: Receives Washington Wizards 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via Marcin Gortat trade on 8/25/13.
*5 Charlotte Bobcats: Receives Detroit Pistons 2014 first-round pick (1-8 protected in 2014) via Ben Gordon trade on 6/26/12.
*6 Chicago Bulls: Receives Sacramento Kings 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via J.J. Hickson trade on 6/30/11 to Cleveland. Via Luol Deng trade on 01/06/14
*7 Atlanta Hawks: Has right to swap 2014 first-round pick with Brooklyn Nets via Joe Johnson trade on 7/11/12.
*8 Chicago Bulls: Receives Charlotte’s 2014 first-round pick (1-10 protected in 2014) via Tyrus Thomas trade on 2/18/10.
*9 Phoenix Suns: Receives Minnesota Timberwolves 2014 first-round pick (1-13 protected in 2014) via Wesley Johnson trade on 7/27/13.
*10 Utah Jazz: Receive Golden State Warriors 2014 first-round pick (unprotected)
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[tr]
[td]Seed[/td]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]4th[/td]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]13th[/td]
[td]14th[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td].250[/td]
[td].215[/td]
[td].178[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td].199[/td]
[td].188[/td]
[td].171[/td]
[td].319[/td]
[td].123[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].157[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].226[/td]
[td].265[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4th[/td]
[td].119[/td]
[td].126[/td]
[td].133[/td]
[td].099[/td]
[td].351[/td]
[td].160[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td].088[/td]
[td].097[/td]
[td].107[/td]
[td][/td]
[td].261[/td]
[td].360[/td]
[td].084[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].071[/td]
[td].081[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].439[/td]
[td].305[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td].043[/td]
[td].049[/td]
[td].058[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].529[/td]
[td].232[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td].028[/td]
[td].033[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].724[/td]
[td].168[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td].017[/td]
[td].020[/td]
[td].024[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].813[/td]
[td].122[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td].011[/td]
[td].013[/td]
[td].016[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].870[/td]
[td].089[/td]
[td].002[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].907[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].935[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]13th[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].960[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td].005[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].982[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
Tank Ranking:
1. Milwaukee Bucks
1. Orlando Magic
1. New Orleans Pelicans
4. Boston Celtics
[table="width: 700, class: grid, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]Team[/td]
[td]Conf.[/td]
[td]win[/td]
[td]loss[/td]
[td]win pct.[/td]
[td]tank alert(last 10 games)[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]Milwaukee Bucks[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]8[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td].195[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]Orlando Magic[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]11[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td].256[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]Utah Jazz[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]14[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td].326[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]34th[/td]
[td]Philadelphia 76ers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]14[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td].333[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]Boston Celtics[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td].341[/td]
[td]2-8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]Cleveland Cavaliers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]New York Knicks*2[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]Sacramento Kings*6[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td].366[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]L.A. Lakers[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]16[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td].381[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]New Orleans Pelicans*1[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]16[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td].390[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]Detroit Pistons*5[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]17[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td].405[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]Minnesota Timberwolves*9[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td].488[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]13th[/td]
[td]Denver Nuggets*3[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td].500[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td]Memphis Grizzlies[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td].500[/td]
[td]7-3[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
Goden State Warriors: 23rd
*1 Philadelphia 76ers: Receives New Orleans Pelicans 2014 first-round pick (1-5 protected in 2014) via Jrue Holiday trade on 7/10/13.
*2 Denver Nuggets: Receives New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Carmelo Anthony trade on 02/22/11.
*3 Orlando Magic: Receives less favorable of Denver Nuggets/New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Dwight Howard trade on 8/10/12.
*4 Phoenix Suns: Receives Washington Wizards 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via Marcin Gortat trade on 8/25/13.
*5 Charlotte Bobcats: Receives Detroit Pistons 2014 first-round pick (1-8 protected in 2014) via Ben Gordon trade on 6/26/12.
*6 Chicago Bulls: Receives Sacramento Kings 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via J.J. Hickson trade on 6/30/11 to Cleveland. Via Luol Deng trade on 01/06/14
*7 Atlanta Hawks: Has right to swap 2014 first-round pick with Brooklyn Nets via Joe Johnson trade on 7/11/12.
*8 Chicago Bulls: Receives Charlotte’s 2014 first-round pick (1-10 protected in 2014) via Tyrus Thomas trade on 2/18/10.
*9 Phoenix Suns: Receives Minnesota Timberwolves 2014 first-round pick (1-13 protected in 2014) via Wesley Johnson trade on 7/27/13.
*10 Utah Jazz: Receive Golden State Warriors 2014 first-round pick (unprotected)
[table="width: 800, class: grid, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]Seed[/td]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]4th[/td]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]13th[/td]
[td]14th[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td].250[/td]
[td].215[/td]
[td].178[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td].199[/td]
[td].188[/td]
[td].171[/td]
[td].319[/td]
[td].123[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].157[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].226[/td]
[td].265[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4th[/td]
[td].119[/td]
[td].126[/td]
[td].133[/td]
[td].099[/td]
[td].351[/td]
[td].160[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td].088[/td]
[td].097[/td]
[td].107[/td]
[td][/td]
[td].261[/td]
[td].360[/td]
[td].084[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].071[/td]
[td].081[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].439[/td]
[td].305[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td].043[/td]
[td].049[/td]
[td].058[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].529[/td]
[td].232[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td].028[/td]
[td].033[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].724[/td]
[td].168[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td].017[/td]
[td].020[/td]
[td].024[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].813[/td]
[td].122[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td].011[/td]
[td].013[/td]
[td].016[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].870[/td]
[td].089[/td]
[td].002[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].907[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].935[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]13th[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].960[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td].005[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].982[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
Tank Ranking:
1. Milwaukee Bucks
1. Orlando Magic
1. New Orleans Pelicans
4. Boston Celtics
I am worried about Philly, Boston and the Lakers. I have an eye on the Kings and Cavs. Orlando and Bucks are in a class of their own. Jazz finish anywhere from 3rd to 7th.
Orlando is about to go on a win streak.
Lakers (home)
New Orleans (road)
Detroit (road)
Toronto (road)
Milwaukee (home)
Boston (road)
Indiana (road)
Detroit (home)
OKC (home)
Indiana (home)
Memphis (home)
Milwaukee (road)
Cleveland (road)
New York
Toronto (road)
Washington (road)
Phili (road)
17 games, only 3 automatic losses, & 2 highly likely losses. Milwaukee twice and 10 other very winnable games.
Lakers (home)
New Orleans (road)
Detroit (road)
Toronto (road)
Milwaukee (home)
Boston (road)
Indiana (road)
Detroit (home)
OKC (home)
Indiana (home)
Memphis (home)
Milwaukee (road)
Cleveland (road)
New York
Toronto (road)
Washington (road)
Phili (road)
17 games, only 3 automatic losses, & 2 highly likely losses. Milwaukee twice and 10 other very winnable games.
While I like your enthusiasm. Have you crosschecked their opponents schedules? Are they on a long road trip? 2nd of a back to back? Vucevic projects to be out longer as his recovery from the concussion is slow reportedly. I'm not sure they'll be so successful.
It is going to be tough for the Jazz to catch either Orlando or the Bucks. Both of these teams have had a poor run lately so maybe they get sick of losing and get a few wins. I think Boston will start winning more. They are not really trying to tank. Now if they trade Rondo then they are in full tank mode.
I think the Lakers are contenders simply because they have had a lot of injuries. The farther they fall back the more likely they are just going to go all in on the tank.
Philly has young talent so they are kind of like us so hopefully the Jazz will get some space between them as they have to play more Western conference foes. I am now worried about the Kings with the Gay and Cousins injuries if either are serious.
I think the Lakers are contenders simply because they have had a lot of injuries. The farther they fall back the more likely they are just going to go all in on the tank.
Philly has young talent so they are kind of like us so hopefully the Jazz will get some space between them as they have to play more Western conference foes. I am now worried about the Kings with the Gay and Cousins injuries if either are serious.
Zulu
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