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Marvin Williams trade value at all time high!

Should we trade Marvin now?

  • yes

    Votes: 25 80.6%

  • no

    Votes: 6 19.4%
  • Total voters
    31
  • Poll closed .
now that the pistons are joining the tank by firing their coach this morning. I am onboard to trade marvin and jefferson. ASAP.
 
Marvin for Tayshaun Prince.

Then attached to this trade would be one of the following, in descending order of preference:

Memphis' first
Our second for Memphis' first
Right to swap picks with GSW pick
Two of Memphis' second rounders
One second rounder
Cash
A guarantee that they'll beat us in any remaining games this season
Special rights for Wilford Brimley to preform Marc Cohen's "Walking in Memphis" at any given half-time
 
Scorpjazz said:
If, by chance we end up with a draft pick that does what he does and does it better, trace him next year.
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But marvin playing well now is hurting our chance of getting the player (jabari) that does what marvin does and does it better.


Plus like ugli said..... marvin is playing well in the last few games, but has played much worse for years upon years of his career.

So you think what marv has done in a handful of games during a contract year on a crappy team is more indicative of who he is than 10 years of games?

Ok
 
infection said:
Marvin for Tayshaun Prince.

Then attached to this trade would be one of the following, in descending order of preference:

Memphis' first
Our second for Memphis' first
Right to swap picks with GSW pick
Two of Memphis' second rounders
One second rounder
Cash
A guarantee that they'll beat us in any remaining games this season
Special rights for Wilford Brimley to preform Marc Cohen's "Walking in Memphis" at any given half-time
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This is the exact trade scenario i have come up with too (minus the Marc Cohen part, which is intriguing)

Memphis would get out of one more year of prince and also upgrade for a #playoffpush this year. although Marvin wouldn't be playing STRETCH FOUR (brought to you by Locked on Jazz) for Memphis, i think it would be a good move for them.
 
I don't really believe this contract year bull. Why isn't Biedrins playing all good or at all, it's his contract year. You'd have to give me stats of a lot of players in there contract years to convince me that there isn't any other factor.

That being said, I want Jabari, so do whatever it takes!!!!
 
UGLI baby said:
Middling player in a contract year on a ****ty team. What he is doing right now has absolutely no bearing on the type of player he will be in the future. We know who Marv is, there is about 10 years of data available on him.
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You're right, there is-- and I'm pretty sure you're ignoring the data.

Unless Marv has a career arc never before seen in the NBA, he is a non factor in building your franchise. He is at best a solid veteran you add to your roster as a contender.
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Dude, srs? Marv is averaging 10.3PPG and 5.3RPG. His career numbers? 11.0 PPG and 5.1 RPG.

in 2008 (at 21 years of age, mind-you) Marv averaged 14.8 PPG and 5.7 RPG in 80 games at 46% from the field.

You're acting like this season is an anomaly. Umm, nope. This season is pretty much a carbon-copy of 2011-2012 season in Atlanta (in terms of points, rebounds, minutes, role with the team, AND three-point percentage).

The only "anomaly" of Marvin Williams if you look at "10 years of data" is his first season with the Jazz.


This talk about "wow Marvin is performing out of his mind cuz it's a contract year bla ba" is just ridiculous, and statistically unjustifiable.


Should we trade him? If we plan on tanking, then obviously that's the move to make. But let's be intellectually-honest here, and understand that Marvin is 27 years of age, and what he has been doing this season has been replicated in at least one aspect previously in his career. Nothing that he's done has been dramatically "new", in any sense. You have 10 years of data to figure this out.
 
dalamon said:
You're right, there is-- and I'm pretty sure you're ignoring the data.



Dude, srs? Marv is averaging 10.3PPG and 5.3RPG. His career numbers? 11.0 PPG and 5.1 RPG.

in 2008 (at 21 years of age, mind-you) Marv averaged 14.8 PPG and 5.7 RPG in 80 games at 46% from the field.

You're acting like this season is an anomaly. Umm, nope. This season is pretty much a carbon-copy of 2011-2012 season in Atlanta (in terms of points, rebounds, minutes, role with the team, AND three-point percentage).

The only "anomaly" of Marvin Williams if you look at "10 years of data" is his first season with the Jazz.


This talk about "wow Marvin is performing out of his mind cuz it's a contract year bla ba" is just ridiculous, and statistically unjustifiable.


Should we trade him? If we plan on tanking, then obviously that's the move to make. But let's be intellectually-honest here, and understand that Marvin is 27 years of age, and what he has been doing this season has been replicated in at least one aspect previously in his career. Nothing that he's done has been dramatically "new", in any sense. You have 10 years of data to figure this out.
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Holy **** Dal.

You dont understand how the NBA works?

You find stars, THEN add role players, not the other way around.

You don't tie up salary cap space on role players unless you are making a title run. PERIOD.
 
UGLI baby said:
Holy **** Dal.

You dont understand how the NBA works?

You find stars, THEN add role players, not the other way around.

You don't tie up salary cap space on role players unless you are making a title run. PERIOD.
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Where have I ever said that we should re-sign Marv?
 
That thought process makes sense-- pick-up role players once you've settled on a nice core. My only problem with your post is your inaccurate portrayal of Marvin Williams as a player.
 
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