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Archie Moses said:
Why can't it do both?
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It can obviously do both-- but I think the question is: why does it have to do both? From this aspect, I would agree with Hantlers, actually. Not sure how my faith unanimously feels on the subject, but I would imagine that God could have his sons/daughters be exemplary human beings without the need of getting married, and perpetuating offspring. Just my opinion, and I understand why some would disagree.
 
A core tenet of the LDS faith is that marriage, or being sealed, for time and all eternity, is a required ordinance or sacrament if you will, fully as necessary as baptism, to rise to the highest glory that can be attained in the hereafter. This is one reason for the LDS practice of performing these ordinances for those who did not receive them in life.
 
Combining church and dating - two of the more expensive investments you will ever make. That sounds stressful
 
dalamon said:
I've never understood this thought-process, tbh.
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My thoughts exactly. I've easily read 10x the literature about other religions versus Mormon text and doctrine. Like Dal-Pal said, it has done nothing more than add to my own faith and made me a better, more understanding person.

dalamon said:
It can obviously do both-- but I think the question is: why does it have to do both? From this aspect, I would agree with Hantlers, actually. Not sure how my faith unanimously feels on the subject, but I would imagine that God could have his sons/daughters be exemplary human beings without the need of getting married, and perpetuating offspring. Just my opinion, and I understand why some would disagree.
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I think if you guys were in Utah and actually attended one of these travesties, you'd realize that that's not what is really going on. There isn't a special class or sacrament for the singles wards. There are no rules that say certain people can't attend. They do the exact same things as any other ward, but for some reason, someone thought it would be a good idea to get the young people together. I think it's horridly dumb.

LogGrad98 said:
A core tenet of the LDS faith is that marriage, or being sealed, for time and all eternity, is a required ordinance or sacrament if you will, fully as necessary as baptism, to rise to the highest glory that can be attained in the hereafter. This is one reason for the LDS practice of performing these ordinances for those who did not receive them in life.
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I have issue with this, tbh. I know a bunch of amazing people, who live much more exemplary lives than most of the people I know, who put God and their faith above just about anything, and they are not, and likely never will be married. Are you trying to tell me that they won't make the highest degree of glory because of that? Pffft.
 
E.J. Wells said:
I have issue with this, tbh. I know a bunch of amazing people, who live much more exemplary lives than most of the people I know, who put God and their faith above just about anything, and they are not, and likely never will be married. Are you trying to tell me that they won't make the highest degree of glory because of that? Pffft.
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No, the doctrine states they will have that opportunity in the hereafter. There are plenty of fantastic people married currently to tools like you and me, and it isn't fair for them to be hitched forever to a chromosomally-challenged jackwagon.
 
LogGrad98 said:
No, the doctrine states they will have that opportunity in the hereafter. There are plenty of fantastic people married currently to tools like you and me, and it isn't fair for them to be hitched forever to a chromosomally-challenged jackwagon.
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I agree. I thought you were saying that people who don't get married down here won't ever get into heaven. That aggression won't stand, man.
 
LogGrad98 said:
A core tenet of the LDS faith is that marriage, or being sealed, for time and all eternity, is a required ordinance or sacrament if you will, fully as necessary as baptism, to rise to the highest glory that can be attained in the hereafter. This is one reason for the LDS practice of performing these ordinances for those who did not receive them in life.
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I would be curious what the LDS church thinks of Paul's statements on marriage. Their stance and the Bible's stance seems to be fairly contradictory towards marriage.
 
Hantlers said:
I would be curious what the LDS church thinks of Paul's statements on marriage. Their stance and the Bible's stance seems to be fairly contradictory towards marriage.
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It all depends on your interpretation of the bible. But if you are curious about what we believe about Paul, then the lds articles of faith are a good place to start.

We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

https://mormon.org/beliefs/articles-of-faith
 
b_line said:
We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
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OMG, Cult!!!
 
b_line said:
It all depends on your interpretation of the bible. But if you are curious about what we believe about Paul, then the lds articles of faith are a good place to start.

We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

https://mormon.org/beliefs/articles-of-faith
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I hate to be rude, but you completely side-stepped my question.

Again, Paul says that marriage is not necessary, in fact, he states that it is better for man to not marry and then he goes into how we should act if we do marry. Paul essentially states that whether marriage is good for a person depends on the individual. I'm not totally sure how you could interpret that another way, but I'm more than willing to listen to how you interpret it.

This directly contradicts the LDS statement that marriage is necessary, in this life or the next. Speaking of marriage in the next life, Mark 22:30 states that there will be no marriage in the resurrection. Again, I'm more than willing to listen to how it could be interpreted differently, this is just my view on it.
 
PKM said:
Have to say....

This reads as I am trapped in religion and it sucks.

What advice were u looking for?
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It reads as an entitlement mentality...like he looks at his church as it is there to entertain him like some bacha bazi ritual.

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Hantlers said:
I hate to be rude, but you completely side-stepped my question.

Again, Paul says that marriage is not necessary, in fact, he states that it is better for man to not marry and then he goes into how we should act if we do marry. Paul essentially states that whether marriage is good for a person depends on the individual. I'm not totally sure how you could interpret that another way, but I'm more than willing to listen to how you interpret it.

This directly contradicts the LDS statement that marriage is necessary, in this life or the next. Speaking of marriage in the next life, Mark 22:30 states that there will be no marriage in the resurrection. Again, I'm more than willing to listen to how it could be interpreted differently, this is just my view on it.
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I don't remember anyone in the bible saying that we should not get married.

I don't know how to explain the one about how we are neither married or given in marriage in the next life, and I don't think it matters. I don't think you have to get married to gain salvation, but there are a lot of Mormons who do think that. In fact, a lot if Mormons think the part of the bible that you mentioned about not being married in the next life is "translated incorrectly" and that is how they explain things.

The thing about the bible is that it is full of contradictions, and most Christian sects are based in their interpretation of the bible. You say, how could one interpret it any differently? How could anyone interpret "love your neighbor" differently than "love everyone"? Yet there are plenty if Christians who hate Muslims, hate lgbt, hate anyone who is different.

In my interactions with Christians, I have seen as many different ways to view the word of god as there are followers of his.
 
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