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Hayward's AAV: 4 years; 9 per

I have faith in Lindsey.

Does anyone know of the Spurs "overpaying" for one of their role players in the years that Lindsey was at the helm?
 
Fortunately, the only "poison pill" any team could use would be to pay him much more than he's worth. Utah has the cap space to absorb any offer and I doubt any amount of a signing bonus is of real concern. There are a handful of teams that can make a big offer to Gordon. But to do so, they'll then face the same constraints as Utah: Pay Gordon a lot and you have to cut elsewhere and/or free up room to even sign him to an offer. And that is easier said than done when you add in cap holds to teams.
 
from a PHX game thread....I think a lot of PHX fans seem to think something similar to us as hayward..

keep firing shots over-rated Hayward lol
by XcasX on Feb 26, 2014 | 7:52 PM

Wonder why some people here are so crazy over Hayward.
Parsons is way better.
by IZ13 on Feb 26, 2014 | 7:53 PM

He sucks and is way over rated, I would really hate if the Suns get that guy, I mean one, he looks like a complete douche
And second, he shoots 40% and 30% 3′s. He isn’t even close to Tucker defensively, he would make this team worse if we replaced Tucker with him.
by XcasX on Feb 26, 2014 | 7:54 PM
 
MDAV28 said:
I'm interested in the front-loaded option. I don't know much about it. Does it have to go down each year or could we do say $14 mil - $14 mil - $10 mil - $10 mil for the 4 years? I think that would be a great option to retain him and have a little extra for when we should be peaking in a couple years.

Also, who was the last player to sign a front-loaded deal? Especially somebody signing it as a contract after their rookie contract?

EDIT: I guess I could have looked a little harder. Looks like Splitter's deal is front-loaded: 10/9.25/8.5/8.5. I guess I'm wondering if that's a realistic option for Hayward.
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The salary for a player who is signed with his bird rights can have an anual raise or decrease by max. 7,5% of the players base(first year) salary.

e.g.: 4/$48 mil

[table="width: 500, class: grid, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]2014-15[/td]
[td]2015-16[/td]
[td]2016-17[/td]
[td]2017-18[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]$13,000,000[/td]
[td]$12,025,000[/td]
[td]$11,050,000[/td]
[td]$11,925,000[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

I would love to keep Gordon because I think he can be a valuable piece under the right circumstances but for that kind of money you let him go!!! If we can keep him for 4/$40 Mil that would be ok I guess.
 
Primetime said:
The salary for a player who is signed with his bird rights can have an anual raise or decrease by max. 7,5% of the players base(first year) salary.

e.g.: 4/$48 mil

[table="width: 500, class: grid, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]2014-15[/td]
[td]2015-16[/td]
[td]2016-17[/td]
[td]2017-18[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]$13,000,000[/td]
[td]$12,025,000[/td]
[td]$11,050,000[/td]
[td]$11,925,000[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

I would love to keep Gordon because I think he can be a valuable piece under the right circumstances but for that kind of money you let him go!!! If we can keep him for 4/$40 Mil that would be ok I guess.
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Thanks for that. I agree, that definitely seems like too much. I think a front-loaded deal about 4 years/$41 million would benefit the Jazz:

[table="width: 500, class: grid, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]2014-15[/td]
[td]2015-16[/td]
[td]2016-17[/td]
[td]2017-18[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]$11,500,000[/td]
[td]$10,637,500[/td]
[td]$9,839,688[/td]
[td]$9,101,711[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
 
MDAV28 said:
Thanks for that. I agree, that definitely seems like too much. I think a front-loaded deal about 4 years/$41 million would benefit the Jazz:

[table="width: 500, class: grid, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]2014-15[/td]
[td]2015-16[/td]
[td]2016-17[/td]
[td]2017-18[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]$11,500,000[/td]
[td]$10,637,500[/td]
[td]$9,839,688[/td]
[td]$9,101,711[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
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I like this better:

[table="width: 500, class: grid, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]2014-15[/td]
[td]2015-16[/td]
[td]2016-17[/td]
[td]2017-18[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]$9,500,000[/td]
[td]$8,787,500[/td]
[td]$8,128,438[/td]
[td]$7,518,805[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
4 years / $34M is more than fair IMO.
 
After this season anything over 10m a year would be unsettling for him. Past 11m would be dumb.
 
So because some idiot GM gave splitter too much money we should give Andrei Hayward a ridiculous contract too? This board's love affair with Hayward has gotten out of hand.

At this point I'm not sure if I even want Hayward back at any price. Unless the kid is ok with coming off the bench. I just don't see a WC playoff team with a SF so weak minded and inconsistent as he. We never know when he's going to go off for 20 pts or 5. We never know when he will play with any aggression or will stand in a corner and pout.

We need consistency from the SF position, not someone who can give us highlight dunks or looks like he's Mormon
 
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