The horror of drafting in the 6-10 range

[doubledribble]

5 certain stars?

I would say at max there are three certain stars, Wiggins, Parker, and Embiid.

After that, no one is certain though and it becomes a normal draft again.

But what makes those three certain stars? Looking back, the common predictions about the future of the players in the draft proved to be wrong more often than right. We do not have to go far but our own Marvin, who received serious considerations as a first pick and was drafted second by the Hawks ahead of Deron and Paul despite the Hawks beeing in the dire need desperately needing a PG.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

But what makes those three certain stars? Looking back, the common predictions about the future of the players in the draft proved to be wrong more often than right. We do not have to go far but our own Marvin, who received serious considerations as a first pick and was drafted second by the Hawks ahead of Deron and Paul despite the Hawks beeing in the dire need desperately needing a PG.

Parker is a mega scorer. Pretty confident he will be a very good scorer from Day-1. Will either be a size mismatch at the 3, or a speed mismatch at the 4.

Embiid is crazy advanced for his years put in. Crazy athletic and quick for his size. Great size. Great touch. Great IQ. Only problem is his back?

Wiggins is hyper athletic, can shoot the 3, is a great defender. Only question is his handle in the half-court.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Are there five CERTAIN future stars in the this draft?

Many players have been drafted on potential before and not developed. Many have floundered because they are "tweeners" - i.e. PF's with the size of a SF or a SG in a PG's body. We'll see. Already I'm leaning towards this being the most over-hyped draft in NBA history.

Yep. I stopped reading after his first sentence. If he's going post jibberish like that in his first sentence, no possible way it is worth wasting 60 seconds of my life reading the rest.

 

[fishonjazz]

I would much ather have the 7th pick that was hard earned, with our players fighting for the wins every game and growing in the process then the 4th pick obtained by deliberate tanking, fantom injuries and wink-wink communications from the front office to the team players.

So your own numbers showed that there is a better chance at a star in the top 4 picks. Add in the fact that this draft is even more likely to have stars in the top 4..... and you want the jazz to risk thier future because of pride?

I would rather swallow my pride and increase my chance at landing a star and making my team better in the long run, hut hey whatever floats your boat bro

 

[fishonjazz]

Parker is a mega scorer. Pretty confident he will be a very good scorer from Day-1. Will either be a size mismatch at the 3, or a speed mismatch at the 4.

Embiid is crazy advanced for his years put in. Crazy athletic and quick for his size. Great size. Great touch. Great IQ. Only problem is his back?

Wiggins is hyper athletic, can shoot the 3, is a great defender. Only question is his handle in the half-court.

This.
Add in exum, who the experts are drooling over as well

 

[latin jazz]

I would much ather have the 7th pick that was hard earned, with our players fighting for the wins every game and growing in the process then the 4th pick obtained by deliberate tanking, fantom injuries and wink-wink communications from the front office to the team players.

Teams don't tank to get the 4th or 7th pick. They tank for the opportunity to struck gold and get a top 3 pick, where, according to your own numbers, there is the highest probability of finding a star. We are not finishing in the bottom 3 in the standings so more ping pong balls wouldn't hurt. BTW, we are not tanking as the 76ers are. We are just bad, don't play hard and have a coach named Corbin.

 

[green]

Teams don't tank to get the 4th or 7th pick. They tank for the opportunity to struck gold and get a top 3 pick, where, according to your own numbers, there is the highest probability of finding a star. We are not finishing in the bottom 3 in the standings so more ping pong balls wouldn't hurt. BTW, we are not tanking as the 76ers are. We are just bad, don't play hard and have a coach named Corbin.

Yup. Since 1990, if you don't have Jordan, Hakeem, Shaq, LeBron, Kobe or Duncan, you aren't winning a title. Crazy. 4 of those 6 were #1 picks. One was a #3, and one was the first HS ever taken (i.e., if that draft was redone today, not knowing their futures, Kobe would go #1, Iverson #2).

That means that 5 of the 6 were #1 picks, and the only other one (Jordan) was taken behind one of those #1 picks.

It is literally impossible to win a title in the NBA. The sad thing is, only SA was smart enough to realize that and do everything they could to get Duncan.

It's why so many teams are tanking this year. There is another one of "those" players in this draft. LA, Boston, Philly all realize that the only way to win a title is to get that guy. The next shot NBA teams will have at adding a player who can win a title after this year is 2017 (excluding whoever gets LeBron).

Sad.

 

[gregbroncs]

There are 0 Certain stars is this draft. I stopped reading when I got to there.

 

[green]

There are 0 Certain stars is this draft. I stopped reading when I got to there.

Huh. When everyone has universally said that there is a franchise changer in this draft, the first since LeBron (which ironically, was the last time a player was available that could help a team win a title), and every smart team (LA, Boston) is tanking to get that player...I'll listen to them over you, no offense. And then I'll tank.

 

[gregbroncs]

Huh. When everyone has universally said that there is a franchise changer in this draft, the first since LeBron (which ironically, was the last time a player was available that could help a team win a title), and every smart team (LA, Boston) is tanking to get that player...I'll listen to them over you, no offense. And then I'll tank.

Oden was a certain star, So were tons of other top 5 picks that have turned out to be busts. Hell we have one on our team that was a certain star (Marvin Williams). Ironically Wiggins reminds me a lot of Marvin in college. There will be stars to come out of this draft but none of them are certain. And more likely than not one of the 3 certain stars is going to be a bust.

 

[fishonjazz]

There are 0 Certain stars is this draft. I stopped reading when I got to there.

Wonder why so many teams are tanking then

 

[fishonjazz]

Oden was a certain star, So were tons of other top 5 picks that have turned out to be busts. Hell we have one on our team that was a certain star (Marvin Williams). Ironically Wiggins reminds me a lot of Marvin in college. There will be stars to come out of this draft but none of them are certain. And more likely than not one of the 3 certain stars is going to be a bust.

Marvin and oden were not certain stars and no one was tanking for them either. Sorry to burst your bubble