From Mormon Women, a Flood of Requests and Questions on Their Role in the Church | NY Times

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But, of course, the real question is "Gross or Net"?

Wait, what was this thread about again?

For you, it might be net. For someone else, it might be gross. Go ask God and do what you feel is right. Only you know if you are cheating God.

 

[Stoked]

Your bolded expressions:
"the freedom to express themselves as they see fit, free of the strictures you try to impose on them"
"you put your own ease of mind and comfort ahead of the simple politeness needed to treat other people as they wish to be treated"
"how they want to dominate the world"

Going back to the my post in this particular sub-thread:
'While noting that there are differences between the "typical" or "average" man and their female counterpart, applying these differences as applying to all men/women is gender essentialism at its worst, and places both men and women into boxes, many of which are more confining than defining. Personally, I've always looked good in pink.'

Can you describe why noting the falseness of gender essentialism, and the immorality of trying to impose it, denies you the freedom to express yourself? How this discussion is impolite to you? How it attempts to dominate anyone?

Let's go a step further, and posit that gender fluidity becomes something that's socially acceptable, and considered as neutrally as having a vasectomy/tubal ligation. How would this deny you the freedom to express yourself? How would this be impolite to you? How would it dominate anyone?

I was referrign mostly to this part of the argument. Not the sexual orientation side of it. My post was on a broader scale. Isn't forcing anyone to live by a set of laws, morals, values...that they do not agree with a form of domination and hurtful to ones feelings?

Banning gay marriage, banning gun , banning weed, imigration control...the argument can be applied to them all. It is forcing others to live by a set of values that are not their own.

 

[PearlWatson]

My experience having served on several ward councils is that 80% of our time is spent discussing needs of members and how we can best serve them with our limited resources. It's always a humbling and spiritual experience for me, and I can only hope that it's received as such as well. It can feel embarrassing to even ask for help, or to receive it, but we're all in this together, right?

A big male gossip session?

 

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I was referrign mostly to this part of the argument. Not the sexual orientation side of it. My post was on a broader scale. Isn't forcing anyone to live by a set of laws, morals, values...that they do not agree with a form of domination and hurtful to ones feelings?

Banning gay marriage, banning gun , banning weed, imigration control...the argument can be applied to them all. It is forcing others to live by a set of values that are not their own.

I agree completely. I apologize for misunderstanding your point.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

A big male gossip session?

If you don;t mind me asking, are you LDS? From what I've heard you're a woman IRL.

What's your take on this issue? I have heard what a whole bunch of Mormon dudes think. What about you?