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silesian said:
Depends on where you are and where you want to be. Use it in professional or academic circles and you will undermine your credibility. I'd recommend you keep it off your resume. If you want to be a busboy or flip burgers, the usage is fine. Not saying that it is right, but it is reality.
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This is an interwebs board far from professional or academic circles.

3k seems to be doing fine. Referring to him as a dip **** for using it on this board while not even bothering to explain why it is improper is a prick move.
 
silesian said:
Depends on where you are and where you want to be. Use it in professional or academic circles and you will undermine your credibility. I'd recommend you keep it off your resume. If you want to be a busboy or flip burgers, the usage is fine. Not saying that it is right, but it is reality.
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LOL.. so only people who flip burgers can use that word?


c'mon bro.


I didn't use it in my dissertation, let's put it that way.
 
heyhey said:
I hate language snobs.

Irregardless is a word. The double negative nature of irregardless does not detract from it's utility it enhances it.

Regardless- without regard

Irregardless- absolutely without regard

The way people say the word, often with anger or contempt, is further evidence of this. IR- RE- Gardless

The word has been in use for over 200 years. It communicates it's meaning quite nicely.(which is the best measure of a word) It also has that double rr that is all too often missing or under stressed in English.

So get off your high horse and say "irregardless". It's a damn fine word.
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I'm confused by your interpretation. Does not the prefix 'ir' mean 'not' or imply the opposite of the base word?

Definition:Ir- common prefix that means "not." When it comes at the beginning of a word, the meaning is the opposite of the root word.


With The suffix 'less' meaning 'without', I don't see how 'irregardless' could mean 'absolutely without regard'. Does it not mean, 'not (ir) without (less) regard', which is the opposite of the intended meaning?


Its like the phrase, 'I could care less'. The person's message is understood, but only through translation, as the word structure actually implies the opposite of the point.
 
jope said:
I'm confused by your interpretation. Does not the prefix 'ir' mean 'not' or imply the opposite of the base word?

Definition:Ir- common prefix that means "not." When it comes at the beginning of a word, the meaning is the opposite of the root word.


With The suffix 'less' meaning 'without', I don't see how 'irregardless' could mean 'absolutely without regard'. Does it not mean, 'not (ir) without (less) regard', which is the opposite of the intended meaning?


Its like the phrase, 'I could care less'. The person's message is understood, but only through translation, as the word structure actually implies the opposite of the point.
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Since we all agree that the correct meaning is understood, isn't this a mute point (sorry, colton...couldn't resist).

Back to the topic...
Nothing has changed much in the race for #4-8. Teams are winning the games they're supposed to (i.e. home games against fellow tankers) and losing all others. Utah has the potential to win 3-6 more: should defeat Det, LAL and NO at home, possibly NY and a team like Portland at home as well. Could also steal a road win from NO, Den or even Minn. At best, 29 wins, most likely is 27 wins, IMO.

So, it's good to see Denver, NY and New Orleans are likely out of reach and Cleveland is almost there. Still believe Boston, Sacramento and Lakers have a tougher schedule than Utah. Detroit's SOS is comparable, so hopefully they finish with more wins, even with a loss to Utah tonight.
 
Core4 said:
Since we all agree that the correct meaning is understood, isn't this a mute point (sorry, colton...couldn't resist).

Back to the topic...
Nothing has changed much in the race for #4-8. Teams are winning the games they're supposed to (i.e. home games against fellow tankers) and losing all others. Utah has the potential to win 3-6 more: should defeat Det, LAL and NO at home, possibly NY and a team like Portland at home as well. Could also steal a road win from NO, Den or even Minn. At best, 29 wins, most likely is 27 wins, IMO.

So, it's good to see Denver, NY and New Orleans are likely out of reach and Cleveland is almost there. Still believe Boston, Sacramento and Lakers have a tougher schedule than Utah. Detroit's SOS is comparable, so hopefully they finish with more wins, even with a loss to Utah tonight.
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Don't under estimate this Jazz team. They only beat Oralndo at home by a miracle shot. They should have lost that game. I know that does not mean anything but it gives me hope. I think Detroit has a reasonable chance of winning tonight.

Damn Jazzfanz has gotten pessimistic.
 
Stoked said:
Don't under estimate this Jazz team. They only beat Oralndo at home by a miracle shot. They should have lost that game. I know that does not mean anything but it gives me hope. I think Detroit has a reasonable chance of winning tonight.

Damn Jazzfanz has gotten pessimistic.
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It was a fairly open corner 3, not exactly a miracle shot. Burks also didn't play.
 
jope said:
Its like the phrase, 'I could care less'. The person's message is understood, but only through translation, as the word structure actually implies the opposite of the point.
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When did English become a language of precision and logical syntax? Many of your points would be fine for logical connectives, but English is different. The double negative for emphasis is a firmly established, well-understood mannerism.
 
One Brow said:
When did English become a language of precision and logical syntax? Many of your points would be fine for logical connectives, but English is different. The double negative for emphasis is a firmly established, well-understood mannerism.
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I am by no means an english language expert. But i can't think of an instance where a double negative would create extra emphasis, without sacrificing understanding or perception.


'I am not unconvinced by his argument' vs. 'I am convinced by his argument'.


the first, a grammatically acceptable double negative, would seem to provide more subtlety than emphasis, whilst also adding more rules to mentally sort through.


Talk as you may, for i will not stop you, but never will you find me using phrases such as 'I haven't not', 'We didn't see nothing', 'She never danced with nobody'.

Although we can make sense of such phrases, within the structure of such usages tends to create an intrinsically biased perception from the listener in most circles. That you either are 'uneducated' or that you aren't credible with what you are talking about, whether either are true are beyond the point.
 
Dat engrish gramma doe
 
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