And you think they quit because of what specifically? We knew the Jazz would suck this year, the Jazz knew they would suck this year.
Most of the games we lose because our bench sucks.
Our bench sucks...that same bench that has Burks and Kanter on it, right? Also, look at the players you can play:
PG - Burke, Garrett, Hayward, Burks. I don't think you say the bench sucks for the PG position
SG - Hayward, Burks. Maybe a little thin here
SF - Jefferson, Williams, Hayward. Bench doesn't suck for this position
PF - Favors, Williams, Kanter, Evans. Again, doesn't suck.
C - Favors, Kanter, Gobert. Maybe a little inexperienced, but I wouldn't say that our bench sucks here.
So, where exactly is this sucky bench? And remember, it isn't injuries either, because the Jazz were playing .500 ball when Burke came back from his injury. Then the team quit on Corbin. So, while the team does has it's limitations, Corbin shares a lion share of the blame. Kanter has been in this system three years now. Same with Burks. And Hayward. I bet Sloan and Johnson would have built a better offense around Kanter, Favors, Hayward and Burks the last couple of seasons. The defense has regressed. Kanter has regressed. Hayward has regressed. Gobert hasn't gotten any better. Burke has regressed from the middle of the season.
Against the Knicks we were in the game until Favors left the game with 4 mins left in the 3rd qtr, then they were down by around 10 when he came back. They lost by around 10.
I agree. Why was Ian Clark in there during that period? Why was Kanter left in there so long? Why hasn't he developed a defensive system that can hide Kanter, while taking advantage of Kanter's offense?
I'm not seeing this from your perspective obviously. I don't think they have quit. I see they are discouraged at times.
I also see this as something that can be solved by a player or two from the draft, and a free agent or two.... and a bench that does not suck.
As to Corbin staying or going, I'm right in the middle. I don't hate him and want him gone. I won't cry if he stays. I also hope the Jazz FO explores all other coaching candidates they can to get a coach that can handle teaching, motivating, x's and o's, defense, and offense.
People talk about thibs and his amazing defense, yes he has a good defensive team. His team sucks offensively and if in the Western Conference they would not make the playoffs. Even with a good scheme and good defense you still need good players and the ability to score. What he needs is to get Rose back at full strength, and someone to fill deng's role.
Boozer plays 29 minutes a game. Jefferson plays on one of the top defensive teams in the NBA. You don't think Favors has the talent to match Noah's defense? You don't think that Hayward and Burks and Burke have more talent than the players playing for Chicago? You don't think Kanter should be around Boozer's level three years in (18 pts, 9 rebs)?
What the Jazz need are good players who try all the time, and not just on one side of the ball, or part of the game. You can coach something all you want, if the players can't or don't do it it's not pretty. Is that the coaches fault or the players fault? Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Look at Boozer, Al, Millsap, Korver, etc and the level of defense they are playing on different teams. All are much better now that they are out of Utah. Why would they care all of the sudden, as soon as they left Utah?
Also, whose job is it to put players in positions to succeed, so that they will want to try harder? Who is easier to get rid of? 5 young players all top 12 picks, or a coach? Which is the quicker fix?
There isn't a single reason to keep Corbin. He has done some things ok [like revive Jefferson's career, starting Marvin, Burks if FINALLY playing SG (it only took Corbin YEARS to do this)], but he has done a lot of things wrong [team defense, Hayward playing PG (what is Corbin's deal with putting non-PG players in at PG?), Kanter's devlopment, Burke's development, Hayward regressing, the record being abysmal, comparing him to what Horny has done in PHX, etc, etc, etc, four playoff games in three years, etc, etc, etc the team getting worse every year].
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