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On telling someone who the "real racist" is

One Brow said:
As I mentioned above, while there are certain commonalities to being members of an outgroup, every outgroup also has peculiarities in its treatment. Women are not more likely to be imprisoned, black/gay/trans people are. Gay/trans people has religious opprobrium thrown their way, while black/latino people are followed around by store detectives and subjected to stop-and-frisk. White people can experience discrimination, but they do not experience racism; black people experience discrimination, but most do not experience homophobia. This means there is a limit to what white women, homosexuals, trans, etc. have to say on the issue.
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Perhaps it has more to do with "if it ain't happening to me" than sorry excuse. I think black people are very homophobic. Most of the polls I've seen blacks at a high percentage think homosexuality is a sin or wrong or disgusting. Again it goes back to my point.. if it ain't happening to me....
 
cowhide said:
Perhaps it has more to do with "if it ain't happening to me" than sorry excuse. I think black people are very homophobic. Most of the polls I've seen blacks at a high percentage think homosexuality is a sin or wrong or disgusting. Again it goes back to my point.. if it ain't happening to me....
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But, you're gay.
 
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cowhide said:
Perhaps it has more to do with "if it ain't happening to me" than sorry excuse. I think black people are very homophobic. Most of the polls I've seen blacks at a high percentage think homosexuality is a sin or wrong or disgusting. Again it goes back to my point.. if it ain't happening to me....
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That's also a part of it. In particular, part of society's message to black man is that their worth is to be found in stereotypical manliness, so homophobia has an exceptionally ripe field there.
 
cowhide said:
I agree with his point but feel though he was putting all white people in the category of this knucklehead and there are plenty white people who don't think like this knucklehead.
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After reading the Crommunist for a couple of years, I think I understand his position well enough to offer this: he's not just talking about people in red-face, he also is talking to people who try to tell him about much less obvious things, people who confuse a lack of racist intent with a lack of racist effect.
 
One Brow said:
How very true.

Being white is the societal norm. Only those who are subnormal, like racists, think that being normal is something to be proud of.
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You are being obtuse again, as well as wrong in your statement.

While there are more whites in the society of the USA, if all whites were racists they wouldn't be subnormal, but racist would be the norm.

Also, are you white? If not you probably shouldn't be going against your own logic and stating what white people should feel or be proud of as you have never been in their shoes.
 
One Brow said:
How very true.

Being white is the societal norm. Only those who are subnormal, like racists, think that being normal is something to be proud of.
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Triangle Man said:
You are being obtuse again, as well as wrong in your statement.

While there are more whites in the society of the USA, if all whites were racists they wouldn't be subnormal, but racist would be the norm.

Also, are you white? If not you probably shouldn't be going against your own logic and stating what white people should feel or be proud of as you have never been in their shoes.
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I can't believe I'm agreeing with Spazz...

Eric, sometimes I think you're extraordinarily subnormal.
 
Triangle Man said:
You are being obtuse again, as well as wrong in your statement.

While there are more whites in the society of the USA, if all whites were racists they wouldn't be subnormal, but racist would be the norm.
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I have never heard a white person use the term "white pride" or "proud to be white" who was not also actively pushing racist views. For example, I've never read you using that phrase.

If you are going to call people some racists, then all humans are racists. There is no point singling out any person or group on that account.

Triangle Man said:
Also, are you white? If not you probably shouldn't be going against your own logic and stating what white people should feel or be proud of as you have never been in their shoes.
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The white experience is the default experience of movies, novels, TV shows, newspaper articles, school textbooks, etc., in the USA. Anyone raised in the USA understands the white experience; it's been normalized. You have to go out of your way to learn about the black/latino/Asian/etc. experience if you are not a member of that group.
 
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