Draft pick - moving up

[royzzz]

Would you do this?

Trade Hayward* to Boston** for draft picks plus somebody to make the trade work.
Then trade both own Jazz pick and Boston's for a higher pick to get either Wiggins or Parker.

* replace Hayward with Kanter or somebody, thus sort of breaking the existing core5
** replace Boston with whoever else in the top 3 to 5 or 6

 

[Darkwing Duck]

How do the Jazz trade a free agent?

 

[homeytennis]

How do the Jazz trade a free agent?

Sign and trade.

 

[default]

Sign and trade.

I don't believe the rules allow the Jazz to sign and trade a player (Hayward) before free agency opens in July which is after the draft.

 

[Zulu]

*Waiting for GVC to come crashing in to make people look dumb for not knowing the exact CBA rules*

 

[8]

Lol so you make the first trade assuming the second one will happen?

 

[franklin]

*Waiting for GVC to come crashing in to make people look dumb for not knowing the exact CBA rules*

Paging super-mod stoked. GVC needs your protection from Zulu.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Sign and trade.

Before the draft which is before the signing period which is before the time you can talk to free agents about contracts?

 

[Darkwing Duck]

*Waiting for GVC to come crashing in to make people look dumb for not knowing the exact CBA rules*

All you need to know is the chronology to know this is impossible.

 

[royzzz]

My bad. Let's simplify.

If Jazz is targeting Parker and using https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2014/ for this exercise ...

Jazz trades Gordon to Boston; and Randle to Orlando; Jazz gets Parker from Magic
Celtics sends Exum to Orlando, Future draft pick + whoever to Utah; Celtics gets Gordon
Magic trades Parker to Utah; Magic gets Exum and Randle

Why?
Jazz gets Parker
Celtics gets Gordon
Magic gets two high picks to complement Oladipo, etc

 

[Darkwing Duck]

My bad. Let's simplify.

If Jazz is targeting Parker and using https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2014/ for this exercise ...

Jazz trades Gordon to Boston; and Randle to Orlando; Jazz gets Parker from Magic
Celtics sends Exum to Orlando, Future draft pick + whoever to Utah; Celtics gets Gordon
Magic trades Parker to Utah; Magic gets Exum and Randle

Why?
Jazz gets Parker
Celtics gets Gordon
Magic gets two high picks to complement Oladipo, etc

Jazz can't trade Hayward unless it's a sign and trade during the offseason, which is AFTER the draft. The Jazz can't talk to Hayward about this possible move, so they have zero inclination that Hayward would accept this trade, so the Jazz would have to take the player Orlando wants with the hope that a) Hayward agrees to the trade, b) Boston and Hayward agree to terms, c) Orlando would back out after drafting their own player and meeting with him for two weeks, d) Boston makes the gamble that the Jazz wouldn't match an offer without the sign and trade, and e) NBA wouldn't see a deal as fishy and investigate it.

You CAN'T negotiate backwards. You're just leading yourself to disaster.

 

[Tony]

Jazz can't trade Hayward unless it's a sign and trade during the offseason, which is AFTER the draft. The Jazz can't talk to Hayward about this possible move, so they have zero inclination that Hayward would accept this trade, so the Jazz would have to take the player Orlando wants with the hope that a) Hayward agrees to the trade, b) Boston and Hayward agree to terms, c) Orlando would back out after drafting their own player and meeting with him for two weeks, d) Boston makes the gamble that the Jazz wouldn't match an offer without the sign and trade, and e) NBA wouldn't see a deal as fishy and investigate it.

You CAN'T negotiate backwards. You're just leading yourself to disaster.

I think he means Aaron Gordon. Either way, that's idea is stupid stupid and wouldn't happen in a bazillion years