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Ettore Messina or John Stockton?

John Stockton has zero coaching experience. None.

He's also the hometown here…which means that if he does poorly, which is a pretty good chance, we have to fire him. That tarnishes his reputation in Utah.

John Stockton going to coach here with no experience is a lose-lose situation for him, and for the Jazz.
 
The Idea of Stockton is better than him actually coaching. What happens if he does a bad job? I know I use to enjoy the Milkman Ty Corbin as a player, but he stunk as a coach, and I found myself not liking him. What if the franchise has to fire Stockton? It's better to leave Stockton as the legend and one of the best players ever in franchise history.
 
Biggs said:
The Idea of Stockton is better than him actually coaching. What happens if he does a bad job? I know I use to enjoy the Milkman Ty Corbin as a player, but he stunk as a coach, and I found myself not liking him. What if the franchise has to fire Stockton? It's better to leave Stockton as the legend and one of the best players ever in franchise history.
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No way. He is already cast in bronze outside of the arena. He has potential to be good or even great coach. Who knows, but no one will without taking a chance. A Messina/Stockton combo could work, and it would be tough to say no to.
 
Biggs said:
The Idea of Stockton is better than him actually coaching. What happens if he does a bad job? I know I use to enjoy the Milkman Ty Corbin as a player, but he stunk as a coach, and I found myself not liking him. What if the franchise has to fire Stockton? It's better to leave Stockton as the legend and one of the best players ever in franchise history.
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Agreed. Look how long they had to stick with Ty. Who could fire Stockton? He would basically have the job for as long as he wanted, almost regardless of results.
 
As John Stockton doesn't have a professional coaching record, I'm not convinced we can compare the two.
 
zman1527 said:
Agreed. Look how long they had to stick with Ty. Who could fire Stockton? He would basically have the job for as long as he wanted, almost regardless of results.
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You're probably right that he could have the job as long as he wanted it. But a guy like Stock...if he knew he wasn't doing a good job (and he would know), he'd probably quit. Though I think the chances of getting him to coach at this point in time are slim to none anyway. Bring on Messina.
 
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homeytennis said:
Larry Bird had no coaching experience and he did pretty well as a head coach and seems to be doing quite well as a front office type too.
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Wasn't Isiah Thomas a coach/GM like that? He turned out to be a failure at both. Magic Johnson is arguably the best PG ever and he failed at coaching back in the day too.
 
Yeah, I would legit poop my pants if we hired a duo of Messina/Stockton a la LogGrad.
 
MoTappin said:
You're probably right that he could have the job as long as he wanted it. But a guy like Stock...if he knew he wasn't doing a good job (and he would know), he'd probably quit. Though I think the chances of getting him to coach at this point in time are slim to none anyway. Bring on Messina.
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Maybe he'd quit. But he also said Corbin was a good coach. So how would he judge himself? It would likely take a change in ownership to get rid of John; the Millers just couldn't bear to do it, no matter how bad his record. Still think that if/when they interview Stockton, they're not doing it for a full-time role. I think they realize Burke struggled and would like John to work with him on a semi-regular basis just as Hornacek did with AK initially.
 
Stockton was one of the smartest players to ever play the game, and was the best of all time to ever play the position that is referred to as the "coach on the floor" position. Kidd and Jackson are two PG's that were able to translate with zero coaching experience, and they weren't/aren't even half as smart as Stockton. Granted, Kidd and Jackson inherited teams with some gifted players on hand already, but with this draft and the continued development of our current youngs, maybe we could have the players as well.

If the Jazz wanted Stockton, and he accepted, they would be energizing their team and fanbase in a MAJOR way. People would be very forgiving of him and the situation through this rebuilding process. Dude is bigger than Jesus.
 
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