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Jeffrey32

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There is a strong chance that OKC is out in the first round. A big issue is that OKC has no post presence and in the playoffs you need it. Pau Gasol is going to be a free agent and would provide a scoring center and post play for that team. He is still a Top 10 center in this league. To make room for a $10m+ year contract for Pau… Utah plays the role they did with the Warriors last summer. OKC trades Kendrick Perkins and a future 1st round pick to Utah for the cap space needed to sign Pau. Utah gets assets and a veteran big who can be a strong mentor and vocal leader. OKC would have a pretty fierce foursome of Pau, Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka. Pau gets another legit chance at a title. Plus, Utah and OKC get to stick it to the Lakers which is also nice.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
There is a strong chance that OKC is out in the first round. A big issue is that OKC has no post presence and in the playoffs you need it. Pau Gasol is going to be a free agent and would provide a scoring center and post play for that team. He is still a Top 10 center in this league. To make room for a $10m+ year contract for Pau… Utah plays the role they did with the Warriors last summer. OKC trades Kendrick Perkins and a future 1st round pick to Utah for the cap space needed to sign Pau. Utah gets assets and a veteran big who can be a strong mentor and vocal leader. OKC would have a pretty fierce foursome of Pau, Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka. Pau gets another legit chance at a title. Plus, Utah and OKC get to stick it to the Lakers which is also nice.
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I don't know OKC's pick situation currently. Do they own picks from other teams? Taking their pick(s) and this deal just wouldn't be worth it. Your suggestion that they get Pau would make them only better, right? Why would we want to do them a favor and turn around and get a lousy pick after the favor is done?
 
Even if OKC dumps Perkins, they won't have nearly enough cap space to sign Pau.
 
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In that scenario their 1st round pick would not be that great of a player. We are talking a late 1st rounder, perhaps even last.

Then there is the problem of Perkins. I do not think there is anything that Perkins can teach Favors, Kanter and Gobert that a competent big man coach cannot.

This seems to be great for OKC and that is nice and all but i see no real incentive for Utah here. Pass
 
Screw perkins.

I would hate it if he was on our team and taking minutes from gobert, favors, abd kanter.... and possibly our pick this year.

Plus.... perkins sucks and seems like an a-hole
 
GVC said:
Even if OKC dumps Perkins, they won't have nearly enough cap space to sign Pau.
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This. No offense, but you should look this stuff up before you post. Not to mention what trigg3r said. Why would we want to help a division rival for a late first round pick?
 
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There is a strong chance that OKC is out in the first round. A big issue is that OKC has no post presence and in the playoffs you need it. Pau Gasol is going to be a free agent and would provide a scoring center and post play for that team. He is still a Top 10 center in this league. To make room for a $10m+ year contract for Pau… Utah plays the role they did with the Warriors last summer. OKC trades Kendrick Perkins and a future 1st round pick to Utah for the cap space needed to sign Pau. Utah gets assets and a veteran big who can be a strong mentor and vocal leader. OKC would have a pretty fierce foursome of Pau, Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka. Pau gets another legit chance at a title. Plus, Utah and OKC get to stick it to the Lakers which is also nice.

What is wrong with this logic? Lets see..... Perkins is not good enough to be this post up player to help OKC compete in the playoffs, but it's a good idea for him to play for the Jazz? This is a great idea if you are OKC but a real dumb idea for the Utah Jazz. OVER-RULED!!!!!
 
Maybe they get multiple picks in the deal? OKC has one first rounder left from the Houston deal as well. It also helps to have a favor owed by Presti.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
Maybe they get multiple picks in the deal? OKC has one first rounder left from the Houston deal as well. It also helps to have a favor owed by Presti.
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Houston also figures to be a pretty good team for many years in the regular season.



I think we have enough draft picks for a while now with GSW's '17 pick still to come as well. We need to go get some solid players to help take this young team to the playoffs next year.
 
Stoked said:
In that scenario their 1st round pick would not be that great of a player. We are talking a late 1st rounder, perhaps even last.

Then there is the problem of Perkins. I do not think there is anything that Perkins can teach Favors, Kanter and Gobert that a competent big man coach cannot.

This seems to be great for OKC and that is nice and all but i see no real incentive for Utah here. Pass
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I agree one hundred percent.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
Maybe they get multiple picks in the deal? OKC has one first rounder left from the Houston deal as well. It also helps to have a favor owed by Presti.
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Even if OKC dumps Perkins, they won't have nearly enough cap space to sign Pau.
 
This trade is bad -- selling 10 million of cap space for a very late first is terrible value since there are teams every year who will sell late firsts outright for 3 million (we just did that for Gobert if I remember correctly.)

But the principle is sound. We should not be active in the FA market, accept another rebuilding year, and sell cap space as we did in the Golden State deal. We just have to wait out the right offers.
 
GVC said:
Even if OKC dumps Perkins, they won't have nearly enough cap space to sign Pau.
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Is Perkins the only player on okc's roster? Maybe they send us two or three players. That's the beauty of having a fifteen player roster. I mean, if every team could only ever trade one player, it would be a pretty boring league. Kind of like when you just spit out facts and act like you are the only one thinking in any thread you post in.
 
We don't want to help OKC out in any way. They could become a dynasty with a little tinkering. Luckily it looks like Westbrook and Durant cannot coexist. If you look at the 82games floor time stats, they are better both offensively and defensively with Jackson at PG over Westbrook, and not by a small margin.
 
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We don't want to help OKC out in any way. They could become a dynasty with a little tinkering. Luckily it looks like Westbrook and Durant cannot coexist. If you look at the 82games floor time stats, they are better both offensively and defensively with Jackson at PG over Westbrook, and not by a small margin.
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Haha, beat me to it.

So, moving on: do we want Westbrook?
 
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Is Perkins the only player on okc's roster? Maybe they send us two or three players. That's the beauty of having a fifteen player roster. I mean, if every team could only ever trade one player, it would be a pretty boring league. Kind of like when you just spit out facts and act like you are the only one thinking in any thread you post in.
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They'd have to dump every player on their roster other than Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka AND dump all their draft picks to have $10mm in cap space.

They could, I suppose, get Pau in a sign-and-trade though.

Also, I was just trying to be helpful. There's no point discussing a trade that can't actually happen.
 
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We could definitely pull a similar move as we did with GS to stockpile more assets. Especially with so many big names possibly entering free agency, teams will be looking to clear space to sign them. But if we do take the route again this summer, I don't think it'll be with OKC for reasons people have already stated.
 
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