We got 'flexibility'.
Ex Jazz Men doing well in Playoffs - Whose Fault?
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We got 'flexibility'.
I blame Greg Miller. I don't know why more people aren't blaming Greg Miller. I've been meaning to write a lengthy post listing all of Greg Miller's crimes, but I haven't had the time to dig up the old articles to make sure I get my facts straight. If anyone else wants to start an anti-Greg Miller post, here's my list of bad things he's done...
Ever since he took over he hasn't been willing to spend money on anyone. The only time he did, it was when the Jazz matched Millsap's contract. He so kindly justified doing this by taking all the games of KJZZ and signing a contract with Root Sports (I think it was FSN back then?) Does anyone else remember this? They said they had to take all the games off KJZZ to afford Millsap's contract/go into the luxury tax.
I think his first move was trading Ronnie Brewer (a few weeks later they retired his jersey number...)
I think Millsap happened that summer (once again, I'm going off memory and haven't spent the time to figure out the timeline)
Matt Harpring and Eric Maynor were traded to same money (this move was probably worth it)
He threatened Jazz fans at the beginning of the year by saying "The Jazz will have a home in Utah as long as the fans deserve it"
He hasn't been willing to go anywhere near the luxury tax for the past two years and the Jazz have suffered because of it.
We didn't spend money on Kyle Korver and Wesley Matthews.
I'm sorry, I ran out of time. There are more crimes. Maybe I will revisit it. But with all the money the Jazz have saved by being under the luxury tax, they better make some big moves in the next couple of years. They haven't come close to putting enough money into this team. I've bought into the idea that they are developing young guys, but I've lost my patience with it. We need to see some commitment from the Miller family this year. They've been stingy long enough!
Ever since he took over he hasn't been willing to spend money on anyone. The only time he did, it was when the Jazz matched Millsap's contract. He so kindly justified doing this by taking all the games of KJZZ and signing a contract with Root Sports (I think it was FSN back then?) Does anyone else remember this? They said they had to take all the games off KJZZ to afford Millsap's contract/go into the luxury tax.
I think his first move was trading Ronnie Brewer (a few weeks later they retired his jersey number...)
I think Millsap happened that summer (once again, I'm going off memory and haven't spent the time to figure out the timeline)
Matt Harpring and Eric Maynor were traded to same money (this move was probably worth it)
He threatened Jazz fans at the beginning of the year by saying "The Jazz will have a home in Utah as long as the fans deserve it"
He hasn't been willing to go anywhere near the luxury tax for the past two years and the Jazz have suffered because of it.
We didn't spend money on Kyle Korver and Wesley Matthews.
I'm sorry, I ran out of time. There are more crimes. Maybe I will revisit it. But with all the money the Jazz have saved by being under the luxury tax, they better make some big moves in the next couple of years. They haven't come close to putting enough money into this team. I've bought into the idea that they are developing young guys, but I've lost my patience with it. We need to see some commitment from the Miller family this year. They've been stingy long enough!
Doublea
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Hindsight is pretty good though. I'd rather be in the situation we are now, then spending like the Pistons did. They are screwed for a while because they decided to pay a lot for some players. Now looking back we can say that they should have kept most of these players, but at least we have flexibility and cap space. I'm sure DL will be able to convince greg to go into the luxury tax once we have the right pieces in place.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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JFFR can't tell if your being serious or not, the first move Greg made on his own was re-signing CJ Miles that his dad said he wouldn't have and his first two seasons (AK's last 2 seasons) the Jazz were over the salary cap, something his dad never did. Why would you max out your cap when our rebuilding it messes up your flexibility and removes the possibility of trades that will net the Jazz 2x 1st round picks and 2nd round picks from GSW, besides the fact it is Lindsey who decides on who and when to spend the money the Millers just approve it, which Greg has shown he is willing to do. I think his dad was obviously a better owner but why let facts get in they way of our bitching.
John Crotty
Member
Your definition of "Killing It" must be pretty lose.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Yes, let's definitely keep trading players and getting longer contracts back in return. Then the Jazz can continue to compete for the 7th/8th seed.
1.Really got screwed by trading Brewer. Especially given the fact KOC and his agent were MILLIONS of dollars apart the previous Fall.
2. Huge mistake with Maynor. He's been such a major contributor to teams since.
3. Yep, should have kept Korver. After all, he admitted passing up shots to protect a personal record. Definitely want a "team-first" guy like that.
4. Hindsight is great re: Matthews. 29 GM's didn't see that contract coming. And the 1st year cost would have been $9M+. I'll blame that one on Larry H. Dad reportedly vetoed trades for AK which would have left the Jazz room under the tax.
5. Mo...are you kidding me, Thriller? We couldn't have GIVEN him away with the season he was having.
6. Paul and Big AL...we got cap space. And Lindsey flipped that into the #23 pick this season and a 2017 1st rounder.
homeytennis
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Boom Bitches team ahead of OKC in the playoffs.
Korver, DeMare and Millsap are on the verge of the 8th seed over 1st seed upset.
Mo and Wes are playing great for the rampaging POR team making Harden and Howard looking like high school kids.
John Crotty
Member
They are all doing about what they did with Utah .... save Matthews .. but he isn't a rookie anymore ...... They are on better teams or are playing against the Pacers ..... not really killing it.... good try though.
Well then whose fault is it that the Hawkes are playing inspired bball but we didnt?
The GM? The coach??
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