JimLes
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You can't not declare, though. When you turn 22, you become automatically eligible for that year's draft. Only if you don't get drafted that year are you free to sign with whomever you want like Antić or Teletović.
Why do the Jazz spend so much money/time on International scouting?
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You can't not declare, though. When you turn 22, you become automatically eligible for that year's draft. Only if you don't get drafted that year are you free to sign with whomever you want like Antić or Teletović.
I'd like to say a couple things about the future side of the subject.
The gap between the NBA and the rest is closing and the bridge between the NBA and the international basketball, especially the European Basketball, is getting stronger and wider increasingly, yet it's still not even a completed structure entirely. Coaching importation, for instance, is yet to begin and there are still biases and prejudices about Euroball. Average NBA fans still have little to no knowledge about Euroball while the whole world knows(deservedly) quiet a lot about the NBA.
I've got into an argument here on this forum in the past. People claimed the best players would be playing in the best league anytime and no matter what, meaning the NBA of course. If a player haven't played in the NBA, it's automatically assumed that he couldn't or he wasn't worthy. Many NBA fans think that way about the great European players of the past that didn't make it to the NBA. Which is not true at all, especially not true when there used to be thick curtains between the NBA and the rest of the basketball world. The NBA has seen great Euros nevertheless but God knows how many more Euros could be a part of the NBA history if the doors were open as of today.
So, if anything, it's the right time to spend time, money and effort to scout the outside of the NBA because it will get even more important in the near future as the international relationships getting deeper and the game itself continues to globalizing more and more the each day.
The gap between the NBA and the rest is closing and the bridge between the NBA and the international basketball, especially the European Basketball, is getting stronger and wider increasingly, yet it's still not even a completed structure entirely. Coaching importation, for instance, is yet to begin and there are still biases and prejudices about Euroball. Average NBA fans still have little to no knowledge about Euroball while the whole world knows(deservedly) quiet a lot about the NBA.
I've got into an argument here on this forum in the past. People claimed the best players would be playing in the best league anytime and no matter what, meaning the NBA of course. If a player haven't played in the NBA, it's automatically assumed that he couldn't or he wasn't worthy. Many NBA fans think that way about the great European players of the past that didn't make it to the NBA. Which is not true at all, especially not true when there used to be thick curtains between the NBA and the rest of the basketball world. The NBA has seen great Euros nevertheless but God knows how many more Euros could be a part of the NBA history if the doors were open as of today.
So, if anything, it's the right time to spend time, money and effort to scout the outside of the NBA because it will get even more important in the near future as the international relationships getting deeper and the game itself continues to globalizing more and more the each day.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Great post, ECTYA.
There are MANY great international players who never came over. And I think we're now seeing instances of players becoming bigger stars in Europe and choosing more $ vs. coming over to the NBA and restarting their careers for a lot less money (like Tomic). Certainly style of play is also a factor, particularly in regards to bigs. But even that is changing in the NBA as the "stretch-4" is replacing the traditional PF (who are now becoming centers). Offensively, the game has opened up in the NBA since the 80's-90's, and that style favors the Euro game more and more.
I know it's a huge risk for Utah to hire Messina, and maybe the Millers have already decided to let some other team be the guinea pig, but I would love to see Utah break barriers with Ettore. The worldwide media attention would be phenomenal. Of course, the naysayers are going to point to his year 1 record, which will be underwhelming with a young team, and deem the experiment a failure. So maybe the first Euro coach does need to luck into a winning situation, or come in as an assistant and take over as a HC retires.
There are MANY great international players who never came over. And I think we're now seeing instances of players becoming bigger stars in Europe and choosing more $ vs. coming over to the NBA and restarting their careers for a lot less money (like Tomic). Certainly style of play is also a factor, particularly in regards to bigs. But even that is changing in the NBA as the "stretch-4" is replacing the traditional PF (who are now becoming centers). Offensively, the game has opened up in the NBA since the 80's-90's, and that style favors the Euro game more and more.
I know it's a huge risk for Utah to hire Messina, and maybe the Millers have already decided to let some other team be the guinea pig, but I would love to see Utah break barriers with Ettore. The worldwide media attention would be phenomenal. Of course, the naysayers are going to point to his year 1 record, which will be underwhelming with a young team, and deem the experiment a failure. So maybe the first Euro coach does need to luck into a winning situation, or come in as an assistant and take over as a HC retires.
Beantown
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Whats that four letter word that I cant see? Lamb? Duck? Pies? Ribs? Kale?
I hope its Ribs.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Crow?
b_line
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probably frank.
As in "hey guys, I totally just went ape **** on that frankfurter"
-Beantown
JimLes
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Another overlooked issue is that for a small market team like the Jazz, international players can be a very good alternative to trying in vain to sign North American stars. Euros and South Americans tend to care less about things like big market/small market, what city has better night life, and crucially, have prior professional experience compared to NA rookies.