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Some things that worry me about Kanter:

His per 36 mins the last two years:

2012/2013: 16.9 pts, 10.2 rebs, 1.0 assists
2013/2014: 16.6 pts, 10.1 rebs, 1.3 assists

Did he really get much better?

Advanced stats (his second year/his third year):

PER: 17.6/15.6
TS%: .588/.523
eFG%: .545/.491
FTr: .309/.239
TRB%: 16.5/16.1
BLK%: 2.3/1.5
ORtg: 106/102
OWS: 1.2/1.3
DWS: 1.0/0.9
WS: 2.3/2.2
WS/48: .101/0.050

He didn't really make any big improvements. His minutes went up, but he largely remained the same player.

I'm just not sure Kanter is better than Randle and Gortat and cap space.

Again, I think the real key to all of this, is how good you think Burks will be. I'll look up Burks' numbers.
 
green said:
Some things that worry me about Kanter:

His per 36 mins the last two years:

2012/2013: 16.9 pts, 10.2 rebs, 1.0 assists
2013/2014: 16.6 pts, 10.1 rebs, 1.3 assists

Did he really get much better?

Advanced stats (his second year/his third year):

PER: 17.6/15.6
TS%: .588/.523
eFG%: .545/.491
FTr: .309/.239
TRB%: 16.5/16.1
BLK%: 2.3/1.5
ORtg: 106/102
OWS: 1.2/1.3
DWS: 1.0/0.9
WS: 2.3/2.2
WS/48: .101/0.050

He didn't really make any big improvements. His minutes went up, but he largely remained the same player.

I'm just not sure Kanter is better than Randle and Gortat and cap space.

Again, I think the real key to all of this, is how good you think Burks will be. I'll look up Burks' numbers.
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Burks Bawsed it up this year... Kanter didn't play all summer long and was still feeling it at the beginning of the year !
 
Burks was seriously the most improved player on last years team. I don't want to see any of the young guys traded with out seeing what they do with a new coach. I wouldn't want to watch as one of them turns into a very solid player once on a different team.
 
Doublea said:
Burks was seriously the most improved player on last years team. I don't want to see any of the young guys traded with out seeing what they do with a new coach. I wouldn't want to watch as one of them turns into a very solid player once on a different team.
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Would you trade one to move up for Wiggins/Parker?
 
Burks:

Per 36:

14 pts, 5 rebs, 3 assists
18 pts, 4 rebs, 4 assists (Wade was 26, 5 and 6)

PER: 12/16 (28)
TS%: .507/.547 (.577)
eFG%: .463/.487 (.499)
FTr: .332/.449 (.568)
TRB%: 7.5/6.8 (8.7)
BLK%: 2.3/1.5 (1.5)
ORtg: 100/106 (115)
OWS: 0.3/2.6 (10.2)
DWS: 0.7/0.6 (4.2)
WS: 1.0/3.2 (14.4)
WS/48: 0.044/0.070 (.239)

Burks definitely improved. No argument there. And, wow, Wade was amazing. Sheesh.
 
Zulu said:
Burks Bawsed it up this year... Kanter didn't play all summer long and was still feeling it at the beginning of the year !
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Is there a way to look up those stats based on half the season? IF Kanter is improving, and your theory is correct, then Kanter would have been a lot worse the first half vs the second half.

That would change my opinion of Kanter overnight.
 
green said:
Is there a way to look up those stats based on half the season? IF Kanter is improving, and your theory is correct, then Kanter would have been a lot worse the first half vs the second half.

That would change my opinion of Kanter overnight.
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green said:
Some things that worry me about Kanter:

His per 36 mins the last two years:

2012/2013: 16.9 pts, 10.2 rebs, 1.0 assists
2013/2014: 16.6 pts, 10.1 rebs, 1.3 assists

Did he really get much better?

Advanced stats (his second year/his third year):

PER: 17.6/15.6
TS%: .588/.523
eFG%: .545/.491
FTr: .309/.239
TRB%: 16.5/16.1
BLK%: 2.3/1.5
ORtg: 106/102
OWS: 1.2/1.3
DWS: 1.0/0.9
WS: 2.3/2.2
WS/48: .101/0.050

He didn't really make any big improvements. His minutes went up, but he largely remained the same player.

I'm just not sure Kanter is better than Randle and Gortat and cap space.

Again, I think the real key to all of this, is how good you think Burks will be. I'll look up Burks' numbers.
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His per 36 from the year before was calculated mostly against second to third tier competition. His per 36 this year was against first tier competition, and some second tier. The fact that he was able to post similar numbers against better competition after being robbed of an offseason, starting the year a little out of shape and timid, and being jerked around minutes wise (he'd have games where he played 40 mins, and then the next game he'd play 12, which it makes it impossible for his game to have any rhythm), are reasons to celebrate, not despair.
 
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