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Elizah Huge

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First and foremost, yes it sucks that the Jazz didn't get a top-3 or top-4 pick in the draft lottery this year. Before anything else is said about it, let's take a look at the odds that the Jazz had before the picks were announced:

1st pick - 10.4%
2nd pick - 11.2%
3rd pick - 12.1%
4th pick - 9.9%
5th pick - 37.3%
6th pick - 17.8%
7th pick - 1.4%

We got the pick that we had the best odds on, it happens. Trust me, I was just as distraught as everybody else was. It took me a couple of hours and a bad nights sleep to recover from it, but you know what? Life moves on and honestly guys, we have a top-5 pick in one of the best drafts in the past decade. That's something to get excited about. We have a ton of options to choose from and we are still in a position for one of the consensus top-four players (Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, Exum) to fall to us at #5. A team ahead of us could fall in love with Randle, Vonleh, or Smart, it could easily happen.

It's important to note that it was extremely vital for us to win the coin-toss vs the Celtics, because if we didn't we would have the #6 pick right now.

The best news of this off-season by far is that Ty Corbin won't be returning as the head coach of the Jazz. We are going through a stretch we haven't been through in awhile. A top-5 pick and a coaching vacancy, it's an exciting time to be a Jazz fan.

There have been some names thrown around for the coaching job already: Ettore Messina, Jim Boylen, John Stockton, Adrian Griffin, David Blatt, Alvin Gentry, and the most interesting name Earl Watson. I say that because, he played for the Jazz already, knows all the players, already has Hayward's approval and I think everyone else would be on board with him as well.

It would be great if the Jazz could get Messina or Blatt, but I'm saving myself some disappointment and not getting my hopes up until there is news about them getting an interview or even meeting with Lindsey. Watson is well respected from a lot of people around the league and I think it would be an interesting fit for the Jazz. They asked Stockton for his interest as a courtesy move, so he really isn't in the running If it came down to Boylen, Griffin, Gentry, and Watson, I think I would like Watson the most out of them with Griffin being a close second. Messina and Blatt are the best options, but if we can't get either one I hope Watson gets some serious consideration.

Now onto the draft, right now assuming the top-four players go as according, the players who are contenders to be picked #5 are: Noah Vonleh, Julius Randle, Aaron Gordon, Marcus Smart, and a sleeper pick could be Dario Saric. Everyone out of those players would have been a top-2 or top-3 pick in last years draft without a doubt. Saric would have been mid-to-late lottery and did the right thing by taking his name out of the draft and improving his stock this year tremendously.

There are good things to say about everyone of the players mentioned, I saw someone mention this on the board earlier, when is the last time the Jazz had a pick where they got to choose from so many talented players?

Noah Vonleh has great size, has the biggest hands the draft, and has the potential to become one of the best two-way players in the draft.

Julius Randle ended up with 24 double-doubles this year which was the 2nd most all-time by a freshman, the best post scorer in the draft, and lead his team to the national championship game.

Aaron Gordon is the most athletic player, one of the youngest players, as well as one of the best defenders in the draft. The player with the highest potential out of everyone is this group.

Marcus Smart is arguably the best defender in the draft, has great size for a guard, first in the nation in ASPM (measures and estimates a players plus-minus from box score stats).

Dario Saric is the best passing big man in the draft, can handle the ball well for a big as well, and a pretty good rebounder.

If the draft was today, I would want Lindsey to take Gordon with the #5 pick in the draft. He has the most upside out of the group mentioned above and he is a swing for the fences type pick the Jazz need if they miss out on the top-four players. A lot can and will change over the course of the month leading up to the draft and we will see what happens. If I had to rank the players right now in which I would want them to be on the Jazz big board it would be (in order): Gordon, Smart, Randle, Vonleh, and Saric. Gordon can and will play the small forward position as well as play power forward and there would be a lot of different line-up possibilities for the Jazz as well. I live in Arizona and obviously U of A is the team to watch and like down here and saw a lot of Aaron Gordon, his stats are pretty nice for being on the team that he was on, considering they were pretty good and ranked #1 for a few consecutive weeks.

A few extra notes I wanted to include, Favors is the best player on the Jazz, he wants to be here, and is signed for four more years. You build around him, but if the right deal came along obviously no player is untouchable. Trey is our point guard, if you draft Exum or Smart, it would be a good idea to have a two point guard line-up which has proven to be effective for teams (Suns, Clippers). Burks and Kanter deserve some love as well, the Jazz have a ton of young talented players with Burke, Burks, Hayward, Favors, Kanter, Gobert, even Neto, if Lindsey drafts the right players, this team will be very dangerous in a year or so. Plus to add onto that we have a ton of cap space to work with this summer as well as future picks to look forward to. Also try to sign Hayward to an extension, I'm thinking somewhere along the deal Favors got, probably a little less, but not more.

All in all, we all know the Jazz won't be a contender this year, so take the BPA regardless of position and figure it out later. Hire a coach that fits with the Jazz as well as the players like. Let the young guys play and we will be in the lottery again, which the 2015 draft isn't bad at all, pick up a great player and then the run for the playoffs begins with all the young players.

The future is looking bright for us guys, it's a great time to be a Jazz fan.
 
There is a chance we can get either Randle/Vonleh AND Gordon/Smart.


Kings' #8 pick is up for grab and I'd say we throw Kanter at them with an extra first round pick.
 
There is a chance we can get either Randle/Vonleh AND Gordon/Smart.


Kings' #8 pick is up for grab and I'd say we throw Kanter at them with an extra first round pick.
Again, I ask what makes people here think that other teams want Kanter. Why would Sac want Kanter when they have Cousins?
 
Again, I ask what makes people here think that other teams want Kanter. Why would Sac want Kanter when they have Cousins?

I think they would make a good pair.. Cousins scoring down low Kanter with his midrange shot and eventually the Three point shot.


PF is a poaitional need for them and they can do worse than Kanter for the eigth pick.



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2011

I haven't posted on Enes since they drafted him. When the announcement was made, I was ecstatic. I do believe that Kanter will be a stud. I'm predicting 25/10 from him in two years. I think he'll have a very productive career which, I believe, will be played mostly in Utah. It's a very exciting time to be a Jazz fan. After such a disappointing season last year, it is well deserved. It'll be cool to see who the Jazz draft next year at PG to back up Harris and round out what will likely be one deep, solid roster.

I have always really liked Memo but the more that this sinks in, the more I think that this was the right decision and an inevitable move for the Jazz going forward. I think that this shows that "those that matter" think that Kanter can hold his own and need minutes to develop into a good player. I keep thinking, this is not our Jerry Sloan Jazz anymore. I am really starting to get excited to see how these guys grow together. Like it or not, it is an exciting time to be a Jazz fan.

2012

I like how the new GM has put this team together... FINALLY the 3-point shot is not being neglected on this team...

We could be a VERY scary team heading into the months of March-May... Now if these guys can just put it together on the road... We would be a legitimate contender...

It's an exciting time to be a Jazz fan... :cool:


.. well, i hope you got my point
 
First and foremost, yes it sucks that the Jazz didn't get a top-3 or top-4 pick in the draft lottery this year. Before anything else is said about it, let's take a look at the odds that the Jazz had before the picks were announced:

1st pick - 10.4%
2nd pick - 11.2%
3rd pick - 12.1%
4th pick - 9.9%
5th pick - 37.3%
6th pick - 17.8%
7th pick - 1.4%

We got the pick that we had the best odds on, it happens. Trust me, I was just as distraught as everybody else was. It took me a couple of hours and a bad nights sleep to recover from it, but you know what? Life moves on and honestly guys, we have a top-5 pick in one of the best drafts in the past decade. That's something to get excited about. We have a ton of options to choose from and we are still in a position for one of the consensus top-four players (Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, Exum) to fall to us at #5. A team ahead of us could fall in love with Randle, Vonleh, or Smart, it could easily happen.

It's important to note that it was extremely vital for us to win the coin-toss vs the Celtics, because if we didn't we would have the #6 pick right now.

The best news of this off-season by far is that Ty Corbin won't be returning as the head coach of the Jazz. We are going through a stretch we haven't been through in awhile. A top-5 pick and a coaching vacancy, it's an exciting time to be a Jazz fan.

There have been some names thrown around for the coaching job already: Ettore Messina, Jim Boylen, John Stockton, Adrian Griffin, David Blatt, Alvin Gentry, and the most interesting name Earl Watson. I say that because, he played for the Jazz already, knows all the players, already has Hayward's approval and I think everyone else would be on board with him as well.

It would be great if the Jazz could get Messina or Blatt, but I'm saving myself some disappointment and not getting my hopes up until there is news about them getting an interview or even meeting with Lindsey. Watson is well respected from a lot of people around the league and I think it would be an interesting fit for the Jazz. They asked Stockton for his interest as a courtesy move, so he really isn't in the running If it came down to Boylen, Griffin, Gentry, and Watson, I think I would like Watson the most out of them with Griffin being a close second. Messina and Blatt are the best options, but if we can't get either one I hope Watson gets some serious consideration.

Now onto the draft, right now assuming the top-four players go as according, the players who are contenders to be picked #5 are: Noah Vonleh, Julius Randle, Aaron Gordon, Marcus Smart, and a sleeper pick could be Dario Saric. Everyone out of those players would have been a top-2 or top-3 pick in last years draft without a doubt. Saric would have been mid-to-late lottery and did the right thing by taking his name out of the draft and improving his stock this year tremendously.

There are good things to say about everyone of the players mentioned, I saw someone mention this on the board earlier, when is the last time the Jazz had a pick where they got to choose from so many talented players?

Noah Vonleh has great size, has the biggest hands the draft, and has the potential to become one of the best two-way players in the draft.

Julius Randle ended up with 24 double-doubles this year which was the 2nd most all-time by a freshman, the best post scorer in the draft, and lead his team to the national championship game.

Aaron Gordon is the most athletic player, one of the youngest players, as well as one of the best defenders in the draft. The player with the highest potential out of everyone is this group.

Marcus Smart is arguably the best defender in the draft, has great size for a guard, first in the nation in ASPM (measures and estimates a players plus-minus from box score stats).

Dario Saric is the best passing big man in the draft, can handle the ball well for a big as well, and a pretty good rebounder.

If the draft was today, I would want Lindsey to take Gordon with the #5 pick in the draft. He has the most upside out of the group mentioned above and he is a swing for the fences type pick the Jazz need if they miss out on the top-four players. A lot can and will change over the course of the month leading up to the draft and we will see what happens. If I had to rank the players right now in which I would want them to be on the Jazz big board it would be (in order): Gordon, Smart, Randle, Vonleh, and Saric. Gordon can and will play the small forward position as well as play power forward and there would be a lot of different line-up possibilities for the Jazz as well. I live in Arizona and obviously U of A is the team to watch and like down here and saw a lot of Aaron Gordon, his stats are pretty nice for being on the team that he was on, considering they were pretty good and ranked #1 for a few consecutive weeks.

A few extra notes I wanted to include, Favors is the best player on the Jazz, he wants to be here, and is signed for four more years. You build around him, but if the right deal came along obviously no player is untouchable. Trey is our point guard, if you draft Exum or Smart, it would be a good idea to have a two point guard line-up which has proven to be effective for teams (Suns, Clippers). Burks and Kanter deserve some love as well, the Jazz have a ton of young talented players with Burke, Burks, Hayward, Favors, Kanter, Gobert, even Neto, if Lindsey drafts the right players, this team will be very dangerous in a year or so. Plus to add onto that we have a ton of cap space to work with this summer as well as future picks to look forward to. Also try to sign Hayward to an extension, I'm thinking somewhere along the deal Favors got, probably a little less, but not more.

All in all, we all know the Jazz won't be a contender this year, so take the BPA regardless of position and figure it out later. Hire a coach that fits with the Jazz as well as the players like. Let the young guys play and we will be in the lottery again, which the 2015 draft isn't bad at all, pick up a great player and then the run for the playoffs begins with all the young players.

The future is looking bright for us guys, it's a great time to be a Jazz fan.

Well done young man. However, just a couple of comments. Jazz might not make the playoffs next year but they are not going to be the 5th worse record either. Adding a better coach makes the team better right away and hopefully every player comes back improved. The only possibility of getting worse is if we don't re-sign Hayward and can find a better or equal replacement. So getting a superstar is highly unlikely next year. If the Jazz hit a home run with their #5 pick then the chance of getting a top pick next year diminishes.

Yes the future looks bright but a lot has to go well for the Jazz to be contenders. I am optimistic but realistic at the same time. I hope they make a fantastic choice for the next coach so I can lose some of the disappointment about not moving up. I need to see the direction of the franchise and see if they have a plan to acquire a top notch vet.
 
Well done young man. However, just a couple of comments. Jazz might not make the playoffs next year but they are not going to be the 5th worse record either. Adding a better coach makes the team better right away and hopefully every player comes back improved. The only possibility of getting worse is if we don't re-sign Hayward and can find a better or equal replacement. So getting a superstar is highly unlikely next year. If the Jazz hit a home run with their #5 pick then the chance of getting a top pick next year diminishes.

Yes the future looks bright but a lot has to go well for the Jazz to be contenders. I am optimistic but realistic at the same time. I hope they make a fantastic choice for the next coach so I can lose some of the disappointment about not moving up. I need to see the direction of the franchise and see if they have a plan to acquire a top notch vet.

I think DL WILL try to acquire a very good veteran. The cap space and the assets are there to do it.

I get bjunior's point, but a rebuild doesn't happen in one or even two seasons. The Jazz have some solid building blocks: five legit starters, with potentially two more on the way in this year's draft. And that doesn't even count Gobert and Neto, who have both shown flashes of being decent rotation players. They still have cap space to add a free agent or two - or make a trade where they can take on salary. Lindsey has already shown he can make bold moves (the GS trade). At some point, and I think it will be either this summer or at the deadline, I expect DL will change tack and go from asset accumulation mode, to player upgrade mode - i.e. trading multiple assets to acquire better starting talent at some positions.

I AM excited for the draft and then free agency. DL will be entertaining all kinds of proposals. I just wish Utah wasn't such a tight organization. Very seldom do leaks get out, whereas in other cities you often hear rumors floated. And that drives me nuts as a fan!
 
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