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Chad Ford's Mock Draft 8.0: Jazz take Vonleh at #5

That is a fair analysis, and Vonleh does not have the same motor as Gordon. But lets have the coach fire up the team. If Gordon can learn to shoot (and that is a HUGE if) he will be a stud. When I've watched Vonleh, I see a kid that does a lot really well. His footwork on the post could be better, but his duck under jump hook reminds me a bit of Duncan.

Oui. Vonleh does a lot really well but what does he do GREAT? We've seen that many times from many Jazzmen. Gordon is an elite defender and elite athlete. Gordon's elite D+athleticism>Vonleh's "does a lot really well."
 
Oui. Vonleh does a lot really well but what does he do GREAT? We've seen that many times from many Jazzmen. Gordon is an elite defender and elite athlete. Gordon's elite D+athleticism>Vonleh's "does a lot really well."

This thank you.


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No way! He goes between 4-6. If I'm wrong you can Ban me for life. No way he drops to 8-10 range. Absolutely no way barring some ominous medical info.

5. gordon
6. randle
7. smart
8. vonleh or some guy, sacramento is unpredictable
9-10. vonleh

that's what i believe
 
Oui. Vonleh does a lot really well but what does he do GREAT? We've seen that many times from many Jazzmen. Gordon is an elite defender and elite athlete. Gordon's elite D+athleticism>Vonleh's "does a lot really well."

Best case, you have a longer Shawn Marion. If that happens, and he learns to shoot decently. Great. But Shawn Marion was an 80% FT shooter in college, Gordon shoots 45%. Yes, some college players learn to shoot better, but going from a very poor shooter to a good shooter happens rarely. Gordon has no left hand. Can't dribble well. Can't shoot well. But defends pretty well. Kenneth Faried seems more realistic. Gordon is a huge liability offensively. Why take a player with such a big hole, especially when the team already struggles on offense?

Vonleh on the other hand has the same length as Gordon but with capability on both ends of the floor. He needs better footwork, but his ability to score really well with both hands is going to translate into success in the NBA.

I don't think Gordon would be a bad pick, and he would do fine with the Jazz. I just think Vonleh has a better breadth of talent that will grow. And I think offensively he is going to be a beast.
 
It's past midnight, and sexy allure of vonleh is starting to wear off. Teams are seeing that he is very young, and a huge long term project. It may pan out into something, but not someone who can help right away.
 
Best case, you have a longer Shawn Marion. If that happens, and he learns to shoot decently. Great. But Shawn Marion was an 80% FT shooter in college, Gordon shoots 45%. Yes, some college players learn to shoot better, but going from a very poor shooter to a good shooter happens rarely. Gordon has no left hand. Can't dribble well. Can't shoot well. But defends pretty well. Kenneth Faried seems more realistic. Gordon is a huge liability offensively. Why take a player with such a big hole, especially when the team already struggles on offense?

Vonleh on the other hand has the same length as Gordon but with capability on both ends of the floor. He needs better footwork, but his ability to score really well with both hands is going to translate into success in the NBA.

I don't think Gordon would be a bad pick, and he would do fine with the Jazz. I just think Vonleh has a better breadth of talent that will grow. And I think offensively he is going to be a beast.

"Can't dribble"? Defends "pretty" well?

Someone has an agenda.


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Haha. I've already said I like Gordon. But I've watched the dude play. He does not have a good handle. And yes, he defends pretty well. It will be interesting to see how it translates to the NBA, but I think he will be a very good defender. If the Jazz take him, it won't be a bad choice. I just worry that his offensive deficiencies will end up being a huge liability.

Edit: He has a great "motor" too. I think that will be his biggest asset, as long as he continues to play with high energy.

"Can't dribble"? Defends "pretty" well?

Someone has an agenda.


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Haha. I've already said I like Gordon. But I've watched the dude play. He does not have a good handle. And yes, he defends pretty well. It will be interesting to see how it translates to the NBA, but I think he will be a very good defender. If the Jazz take him, it won't be a bad choice. I just worry that his offensive deficiencies will end up being a huge liability.

Edit: He has a great "motor" too. I think that will be his biggest asset, as long as he continues to play with high energy.

You're simply wrong about his handle. And Faried isn't a fraction of the athlete Gordon is. Gordon is a 3 Faried a classic tweener. I stand by my original statement above.


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