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Rumor: Jazz prepared to match 'any offer' for Hayward.

Hayward is the only other player other than Maravich in Jazz history to average at least 16, 5, and 5, for a whole season.
 
b_line said:
So at this point, would you guys rather have Gordon Hayward or Eric Gordon? Pretty crazy that Eric Gordon got the max and has not really played since. If you look at it that way, a max deal for Hayward looks like a good deal. I am not advocating the max for Hayward, but the point that he is a reliable player is worth something. He will probably not miss time, and while his ceiling is somewhat lower than Eric Gordon's, he is nowhere near as poutty.
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Eric gordon got that deal due to how he played when he was healthy..... all star level.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];859374 said:
Due diligence. Saying this helps drive down the interest other teams have.
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Yes, sort of. The danger is that it could backfire--if a team like Portland KNOWS the Jazz will match, then they could make a ridiculous offer because there's no chance they'd get stuck with Hayward for that price.
 
colton said:
Yes, sort of. The danger is that it could backfire--if a team like Portland KNOWS the Jazz will match, then they could make a ridiculous offer because there's no chance they'd get stuck with Hayward for that price.
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Yeah, but if Utah says they will match anything, and Portland does that offer but doesn't want him, then Utah "changes" their minds, Portland is stuck with a player they didn't even want with a max contract. Super risky move if anyone is just trying to **** us over.
 
b_line said:
not even remotely similar to ak. the salary structure is way different. AK was like 30% of the salary cap at the end of his deal. Hayward at best with get the 4 year mini max, which will cap at about 16 million on a much larger salary cap. You are comparing apples and oranges.
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Exactly. Really have no problem money-wise until his next contract rolls around. Then Jazz have to look forward at all their players, pay 3 of them top dollar (and ask for "hometown discounts), hope a couple more will stick for reasonable contracts and supplement with all those additional picks they've accumulated.
 
colton said:
Yes, sort of. The danger is that it could backfire--if a team like Portland KNOWS the Jazz will match, then they could make a ridiculous offer because there's no chance they'd get stuck with Hayward for that price.
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But for 3 days, they have to clear that space off their books and have it remain frozen. And I don't think that clock starts ticking until July 10th, IINM. Teams can negotiate, but not actually put ink to paper. So from July 1st to 13th (or whenever the deal is presented to the Jazz), a team is completely exposed, especially when they know it's likely Utah matches even a MAX contract for Hayward. Max contract leaves the Jazz with still $15M or so UNDER the cap. And it's not like we're holding that space open for Lebron or Carmelo.
 
b_line said:
not even remotely similar to ak. the salary structure is way different. AK was like 30% of the salary cap at the end of his deal. Hayward at best with get the 4 year mini max, which will cap at about 16 million on a much larger salary cap. You are comparing apples and oranges.
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The cap situation is a lot more strict now. So over spending for guys under the last CBA was as damaging as it is under the new CBA.
 
Can't understand him getting more than $12.

Ibaka-$12.25
Noah-$12.5
Horford-$12.0
Parker-$12.5
Curry-$12.0

I'd take any of those guys over Hayward. Can't imagine him being worth more. Those guys are all elite at something. Hayward is elite at nothing. He's average to above average at everything.
 
colton said:
Yes, sort of. The danger is that it could backfire--if a team like Portland KNOWS the Jazz will match, then they could make a ridiculous offer because there's no chance they'd get stuck with Hayward for that price.
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There are very few teams that have as good a cap situation as Utah does right now. Any "poison pills" will likely hurt the team writing them into the contract more than they will the Jazz. I actually don't think the Jazz would match a Max contract, but then I don't think anyone will be offering him one either as he is worth more to the Jazz than to anyone else with the cap room to sign him to a max contract, and they all know that. He is certainly not a fall back for missing on Lebron or Carmello.
 
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