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Cyrone Torbin said:
He played poorly in Houston and NOLA because his role was too big. Was injured his first year in Washington, and played his proper role his final year. Just don't put the ball in his hands too much, and let him spot-up and get out in transition and you have a great 3 and D role player with elite size.
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What would his role be here? We don't exactly have a ton of creators here.

Also, Burks is already a better player than Ariza is. Burks is 7 years younger... 7! Look at Ariza's numbers 7 years ago and compare them to Alec's last season. It's not close. I wouldn't pay more than mid-level for Ariza and some people are talking double that.

Whoever overpays Ariza will regret it by the all-star break.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Management views Hayward as a SG. They are trying to find a legit SF. That is Ariza. Burks is a bench scorer. He isn't on their level, sorry. If we can get Hayward and Ariza, we are trading Burks if at all possible.
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Exum - starting SG


Hood - starting SF


Burkd - sixth man


The End.
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
Me too... I'd also like a more entertaining tank. More Gobert, Exum, Burks, less RJ and Marvin. I say we bring one of them back. Both are super pros.
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The most exciting aspect of the heavy Spurs influence on this coaching staff and FO is the prospect of playing multiple starting line ups and many different combinations.
 
An important thing to remember is that this is the last summer the Jazz will have significant room under the cap.
Plug in Exum, Hood, a contract for Hayward and roster fill, and the Jazz are somewhere in the $44-48M range (depending on what Hayward gets). So no problem adding 1-2 FA's instead of keeping guys like Clark, Thomas and Murphy.

Next year, though, add in salary for a likely pick in the 10-12 range, plus cap holds for Kanter and Burks and we suddenly don't have very much room under the cap. Probably need to strike now if there's a player the Jazz want to sign for 4 years.
 
Core4 said:
An important thing to remember is that this is the last summer the Jazz will have significant room under the cap.
Plug in Exum, Hood, a contract for Hayward and roster fill, and the Jazz are somewhere in the $44-48M range (depending on what Hayward gets). So no problem adding 1-2 FA's instead of keeping guys like Clark, Thomas and Murphy.

Next year, though, add in salary for a likely pick in the 10-12 range, plus cap holds for Kanter and Burks and we suddenly don't have very much room under the cap. Probably need to strike now if there's a player the Jazz want to sign for 4 years.
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What is the love for Booker? He is about the same size as the second round pick we shipped to Memphis and is a power forward. Why do the Jazz need him?
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Anyone who thinks Burks > Ariza is blind. He is a better 1-on-1 player, but that is it.
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Bit of an overstatement regarding the blind part... dribbling and creating offense are kind of important in basketball. Also Burks at 22 scores more per minute and gets more assists per minute and gets to the line twice as much as Ariza.

What were Ariza's numbers when he was 22...

9 pts 4 rebs and 2 assists in 25 minutes per game. Shooting 46% 32% and 71%.

Compare to Burks...

14 pts., 3 rebs, and 3 assists in 28 minutes per game. Shooting 46%, 35%, and 75%

I'm sure he'll tear the league up next year when he doesn't have Wall to spoon feed him. Ariza had a career year in a contract year and will likely decline when he is not paired with someone that can get him his corner 3s.

At very least they are similar in production with Burks having waaaaaay more upside.
 
homeytennis said:
What is the love for Booker? He is about the same size as the second round pick we shipped to Memphis and is a power forward. Why do the Jazz need him?
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Hes an energy guy who plays nasty, Hes really not all that similar to Jarnell Stokes whos 263bs. Booker can jump and hes much better defensively he gets steals, blocks and can hedge screens, Stokes is much more anchored to the ground.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Hes an energy guy who plays nasty, Hes really not all that similar to Jarnell Stokes whos 263bs. Booker can jump and hes much better defensively he gets steals, blocks and can hedge screens, Stokes is much more anchored to the ground.
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To steal a phrase, his stats have been pretty vanilla for 4 years. Not a particularly good rebounder (5 in 22 mins/per). Steals and blocks were 0.6/per; so not really a factor. He is terrible from the FT line, though, so good news for all those who feel bad we missed out on Aaron Gordon.
 
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Core4 said:
To steal a phrase, his stats have been pretty vanilla for 4 years. Not a particularly good rebounder. He is terrible from the FT line, though, so good news for all those who feel bad we missed out on Aaron Gordon.
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stats dont show a bunch of the things i just listed, his defense, energy, tenacity. Thats why there's a list of at least 7 teams interested on the first day of free agency. 55% from the field was not a fluke.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
stats dont show a bunch of the things i just listed, his defense, energy, tenacity. Thats why there's a list of at least 7 teams interested on the first day of free agency. 55% from the field was not a fluke.
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Agree. If he's a high energy, nasty attitude player, that would be a bonus. On the other hand, with Favors and Gobert at the 5, don't we need players who can shoot from outside? Booker has zero range (a career 1-10 from 3PT range).
 
Core4 said:
Did someone get sent off with a red card? I agree. We may not even be able to win against Philly if we have to play 4-on-5.
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lol you are so naive. Why do you think Favors has been so quiet lately?

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Core4 said:
Agree. If he's a high energy, nasty attitude player, that would be a bonus. On the other hand, with Favors and Gobert at the 5, don't we need players who can shoot from outside? Booker has zero range (a career 1-10 from 3PT range).
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Think I'd rather try Ryan Kelly... although he's not a vet. His real plus minus is insane for a role player on a horrible team.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Management views Hayward as a SG. They are trying to find a legit SF. That is Ariza. Burks is a bench scorer. He isn't on their level, sorry. If we can get Hayward and Ariza, we are trading Burks if at all possible.
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Burks is a better offensive player than Hayward. Hayward does more things but Burks is the only guy on the Jazz who can break down guys. I bet if you look at Burks shooting it has improved since he has gotten in the league.
 
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