So.. Manu is a HOFer and he isn't MAX...
Hayward is no where near Manu's level, and yet you're willing to pay MAX for him???
How does that work?
Poll: Should the Jazz Match Hayward's $15.75 a year/4 year Contract?
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So.. Manu is a HOFer and he isn't MAX...
Hayward is no where near Manu's level, and yet you're willing to pay MAX for him???
How does that work?
Hayward hasn't even come close to making an all-star team and he isn't even close to being Manu. I beg to differ about Manu place on the Spurs that at one point Manu was the best player on the team but he has never been maxed out contract wise. Pop has said on several occasions if we didn't have Manu there would be no championships. People are overrating Hayward and underrating Manu.
That is flawed logic and using the Nets is a poor example. The Jazz are not going over the cap to sign Hayward and if they match are still well below the cap, so your assertion that if they max Hayward they will have to raise ticket prices is absurd. Ticket prices will go up and will continue to go up regardless of who gets what and when.
HighlandHomie
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Because Hayward still has a good chance to greatly improve as soon as this upcoming season. But the main point is that we have to match for the sole purpose we won't be able to spend that money anywhere else. Although that seems like an awful reason to match, it is the reality given the Jazz will never be able to lure a max-level FA. That's the bottom line.
Growlor
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Words like "Priceless" and "Invaluable" to describe Hayward are ridiculous...
Valuable I would go for, but Invaluable? No way.
Look at what came to be considered horrible NBA contracts... (https://msn.foxsports.com/south/pho...ble-free-agent-signings-in-nba-history-070114).
Half of them turned out to be horrible due to unforeseen injuries. The other half were teams that greatly overpaid for talent because of the "Fear of losing a core asset".
Those that argue paying max to an average player doesn't hurt a franchise are looking at this deal in isolation. No team can afford to spend max $$ for every average player and survive.
Valuable I would go for, but Invaluable? No way.
Look at what came to be considered horrible NBA contracts... (https://msn.foxsports.com/south/pho...ble-free-agent-signings-in-nba-history-070114).
Half of them turned out to be horrible due to unforeseen injuries. The other half were teams that greatly overpaid for talent because of the "Fear of losing a core asset".
Those that argue paying max to an average player doesn't hurt a franchise are looking at this deal in isolation. No team can afford to spend max $$ for every average player and survive.
Why not offer Parsons 4 year 12 million and call it a day? It isn't just the money that is the issue, but if Hayward gets $16 a year then all the players on the Jazz are going to use that as part of their negotiating tactic. Jazz can't even say Well, Hayward improved so he earned the contract...Nope he is getting a max contract after his worse year. Hayward even admitted that the loss of AJ and Millsap made it more difficult to get his shot off. Now you want to pay him max money even though he isn't a number one option. if DL does this deal it will be AK all over again.
Wait until Hayward starts clanking shots or turning the ball over the pressure will be immense and if this past season is an example on how Hayward can handle the pressure than it could get ugly real fast.
Wait until Hayward starts clanking shots or turning the ball over the pressure will be immense and if this past season is an example on how Hayward can handle the pressure than it could get ugly real fast.
This guy has played DIII ball. He knows.
I've got a better one.
S&T Hayward to CHA, with the option of swapping Kanter with Vonleh.
We get a better defender with Vonleh who is a true PF and is a better fit next to Favors.
Burke/Neto
Exum/Burks
Hood/Marvin
Vonleh/Evans
Favors/Gobert
Nice young team going forward.
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Where's the hell no option?
Game6Conley
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As much as I'd like Vonleh back. I dont think Charlotte will trade him they got so lucky to land that pick in the first place, then they feel like he fell in their laps, they'd definitely push Zeller.
It's said the Hornets havent looked to S+T with the Jazz though.
It's said the Hornets havent looked to S+T with the Jazz though.
HighlandHomie
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To be fair, in all my posts linking the two names I've clearly stated Hayward isn't close to Manu yet. Manu also came to the NBA when he was 25. Hayward turns 25 next season.
HighlandHomie
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A sign and trade with Charlotte is not possible once Hayward signs the offer sheet (which he will), FYI.