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spycam1 said:
Well, yeah. You didn't say he's clearly a top 30 player in the history of the game, you said he was a top 30 pick in this thing.

I also think the "people just don't know about the pre-80's argument" is lazy. It's just an ad hominem. It's not like this is a board of kids. I'm one of the youngest posters here. In fact, I thought more highly of older players like that when I was younger than I do now.
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Pretty clearly semantics. I think what I meant was obvious.

Also, it's not lazy. It's pretty blatantly obvious. Look at who many people pick. They literally take no one before 1980 unless it's one of the stud centers and certainly some of them know some about these players but I think in general, and this is just my opinion, most people either know little to nothing about them or look at them as inferior, which is fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I don't subscribe to that over-generalized POV. I also don't romanticize the past either though.

In this particular case, I think it's impossible to ignore his career stats, season-by-season stats, the critical acclaim by "experts" on the guy, and so forth.
 
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QuinSnydersHair said:
Pretty clearly semantics. I think what I meant was obvious.
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Apparently it wasn't.

I definitely agree there's a difference between what the all time greatest list should like vs who the top picks should be, and that's what confused me. You said pick. You were responding to a post saying that he should have been picked higher. The whole context of the conversation was how high in this particular draft he should have gone.

Honestly thought you were talking about his draft stock.

Anyway, this is trivial.
 
spycam1 said:
Apparently it wasn't.

I definitely agree there's a difference between what the all time greatest list should like vs who the top picks should be, and that's what confused me. You said pick. You were responding to a post saying that he should have been picked higher. The whole context of the conversation was how high in this particular draft he should have gone.

Honestly thought you were talking about his draft stock.

Anyway, this is trivial.
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Should I reply or just stop so we don't go into a deeper vortex of frustration?
 
For Hacl

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Steve Nash. 36th pick

Best statistical year. *

18.6 Pts 11.6 apg 3.5 rpg 532.fg% *455.3pt% 899. Ft%

NBA career highlights
2× NBA Most Valuable Player: 2005, 2006
8× NBA All-Star: 2002–03, 2005–08, 2010, 2012
7× All-NBA selection:
First team: 2005–07
Second team: 2008, 2010
Third team: 2002, 2003
2× NBA All-Star Weekend Skills Challenge winner: 2005, 2010
5× NBA regular season leader for assists per game: 2005 (11.5), 2006 (10.5), 2007 (11.6), 2010 (11.0), 2011 (11.4)[8]
6× NBA regular season leader for total assists: 2005 (861), 2006 (826), 2007 (884), 2010 (892), 2011 (855), 2012 (664)[8]
2× NBA regular season leader for free-throw percentage: 2006 (.921), 2010 (.938)[8]
7× NBA regular season leader for assists per 48 minutes: 2004 (12.6),[86] 2005 (16.1),[87] 2006 (14.2),[88] 2007 (15.8),[89] 2008 (15.5),[90] 2010 (16.1), 2011 (16.4)
4× member of 50–40–90 Club: (2006, 2008–10)
Has more 50–40–90 seasons than any other player in NBA history
One of only six players to have ever shot 50–40–90
One of only two players (the other being Larry Bird) to have shot 50–40–90 more than once
Lou Marsh Trophy (Canadian athlete of the year): 2005[91]
3× Lionel Conacher Award (Canadian male athlete of the year): 2002, 2005, 2006
J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award (NBA award for outstanding citizenship and community service): 2007
Highest career free throw percentage in NBA history (minimum 1200 career attempts), 90.42 percent


First let me start by saying why I picked Nash over some of the other pg's that were available. *Few pg's available at that time had as good of a career as Nash. *Not many pg's that I know have won MVP of the league, and he did it twice. he's one of the best passers in the game and playmakers, and the closest thing to Stockton at the pg level

One of the most if not the most efficient players to play in the nba, and not just pg's. As it says above... Nash is one of only 6 players to go 50-40-90 in a season, and the only player to do it more then once (4 times).

In today's game when you think of pure pg's Nash is first on the list. As deadly as he is as a shooter, he's just as deadly as a playmaker, he's extremely lethal in transition, making quick decissions, playing unselfish ball as he is in a half court offense working the pick'n roll game as well as anyone and utilizing his probing dribble waiting for a teammate to get open for an easy bucket.

But the main reason I traded up to draft Steve Nash? *Both Kevin Durant (future great and HOF) and Hakeem the Dream (current all time great and HOF') were great playing next to shoot first pg's.. *Just think how much better Nash will make them in this format, Pick,n pop with Durant, and Pick'n roll with Hakeem.

One last thing I'd like to point out I'd like to make about Nash is his drive and heart on the court. *He never shied from contact or a challenge. If someone posts a picture of his bloody nose vs the spurs in the playoffs, there's rep in it for ya.
 
White Chocolate said:
Just for some fun, I made a list of what every team has so far:

JoelHodgeJr's team
Michael Jordan
Oscar Robertson

Ellis269's team
Magic Johnson
Dominique Wilkins
Patrick Ewing
Moses Malone

Thee jazz fan's team
Hakeem Olajuwon
Kevin Durant
Steve Nash

jazzyapma's team
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Kevin Garnett
Chris Paul

addictionary's team
LeBron James
Julius Erving
Bob Cousy

Hotttnickkk's team
Tim Duncan
Scottie Pippen
Reggie Miller

QuinSnydersHair's team
Wilt Chamberlain
Stephen Curry
Ray Allen
Russell Westbrook

heyhey's team
Bill Russell
Larry Bird

spycam1's team
Shaquille O'Neal
Dirk Nowitzki
Isiah Thomas
Paul Pierce
James Worthy

White Chocolate's team
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Clyde Drexler
Dikembe Mutombo
Chris Mullin

Hack's team
David Robinson
Charles Barkley
Dwyane Wade
Gary Payton
Vince Carter

Jeffrey32's team
Jerry West
Kobe Bryant
Bob Pettit
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Every once in a while we should write in our additional picks into this post.
 
I am on deck and think I already mentioned this but just in case I didn't, will repeat it...I will listen to solid offers for # 45. These are the picks I have left. If you already sent me offers, send them again as I accidentally cleared my inbox. I too am one of the tards of the board.

45
63
71
94
96
 
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