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Spurs hire first ever female assistant coach in NBA

[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];886003 said:
She was around the team a ton last year........... when the Spurs might have been the most focused team in NBA history.

I think there is a difference between focus and professionalism. Also, I think her role has increased, and there's a higher likelihood of some sort of clash between player/coach than what her position was previously.


With that said I have high hopes because a) Pop has full control over that team, and I imagine he will allow nothing of the sort; b) Spurs are a world-class organization top-down, from ownership to players, and there could not be a better environment for Hammon to get started
 
I think there is a difference between focus and professionalism. Also, I think her role has increased, and there's a higher likelihood of some sort of clash between player/coach than what her position was previously.


With that said I have high hopes because a) Pop has full control over that team, and I imagine he will allow nothing of the sort; b) Spurs are a world-class organization top-down, from ownership to players, and there could not be a better environment for Hammon to get started

Care to elaborate? I can't wait to hear how your argument hinges on this distinction.

I agree with the bulk of what you're saying, I just bristle at the idea that increased contact between a woman and men is something to get immediately cautious about. After all, you basically don't know anything about them as people.... you're just basing this off some 'universal law of the sexes'. In other words, it's lol.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];886016 said:
another classy post in this thread.

jazzfanz can be a total ****hole.

So I can't make fun of stereotypes?
Can't believe you are completely devoid of a sense of humor.

BTW, would you be shocked to learn the WNBA has a special marketing plan to target theur LGBT fan base?
https://www.eurweb.com/2014/05/wnbas-new-marketing-strategy-to-target-lgbt-community-specifically/

I suspect there's a reason NASCAR uses beer and bikini-clad women to market themselves. Or shoe and apparel companies love the NBA.
 
So I can't make fun of stereotypes?
Can't believe you are completely devoid of a sense of humor.

BTW, would you be shocked to learn the WNBA has a special marketing to target the LGBT community?
https://www.eurweb.com/2014/05/wnbas-new-marketing-strategy-to-target-lgbt-community-specifically/

Making fun of stereotypes is cool when the joke has at least one thread of originality. Some would say that it's best when you aren't making fun of a category that absolutely excludes you. Yours was the most obvious one at-hand, and at some distance from you. You can make fun of stereotypes all you want, but it's another thing to do that AND be "classy." You didn't thread that needle.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];886020 said:
Making fun of stereotypes is cool when the joke has at least one thread of originality. Some would say that it's best when you aren't making fun of a category that absolutely excludes you. Yours was the most obvious one at-hand, and at some distance from you. You can make fun of stereotypes all you want, but it's another thing to do that AND be "classy." You didn't thread that needle.

Sorry, didn't realize I had to be homosexual to make a joke. Please tell all african-american comedians to never make a joke about white people. Or women to never make fun of men (and vice-versa).

So this average white guy walks into the bar with another average white guy who also happens to be a Utah Jazz fan...
 
The Jazz didn't even pursue her for an assistant job? Wow, talk about ****ty management.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];886013 said:
Care to elaborate? I can't wait to hear how your argument hinges on this distinction.

I'll get back to this.


I agree with the bulk of what you're saying, I just bristle at the idea that increased contact between a woman and men is something to get immediately cautious about. After all, you basically don't know anything about them as people.... you're just basing this off some 'universal law of the sexes'. In other words, it's lol.

Nope.

It's something to get cautious about because this has never happened before in all 4 leagues of major American Sports. Sports culture is rife with sexism (exhibit a: Jazzfanz, & Spurstalk), and while there are scores of athletes in the NBA that would treat an attractive female coach with utmost respect, I'm sure there are many that wouldn't.


Fortunately, the best way to break this glass ceiling is to begin hiring female staff members. Unfortunately, it will be hardest for the trailblazers, or the first paid female staff members. Strictly because this hasn't happened before, and the fact that I want this to become a trend more so than a gimmick, is what begs caution from my behalf.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];886013 said:
Care to elaborate? I can't wait to hear how your argument hinges on this distinction.

A female staff member can conceal abuse for the sake of keeping a team as distraction-free as possible. Jerry Sandusky won Assistant coach of the year, and national championships likely at the same time that he was abusing his athletes.
 
Sorry, didn't realize I had to be homosexual to make a joke. Please tell all african-american comedians to never make a joke about white people. Or women to never make fun of men (and vice-versa).

So this average white guy walks into the bar with another average white guy who also happens to be a Utah Jazz fan...

That reminds me of the episode of Seinfeld when one of Jerry's comedian "friends" converts to Judaism. Jerry goes and talks to a Catholic priest to complain. The priest asked him if he was offended as a Jew, and Jerry responded, "No, I am offended as a comedian".

We should all be able to poke fun at each other, I didn't see any hate in Core4's statement. If anything it was a straight joke. I am not a racist, I truly have no feelings that one race is better than another (except for the Morlocks, they are on another level). I am, however, an anti-dentite. Dentists....who needs them.

Honestly, I'm not sure how much of a "stereotype" it is to state that many of the players in the WNBA are gay. (not that there is anything wrong with that). The Seattle Times estimated (based on player/personnel reporting) that over 40% of the WNBA are gay. So making a joke that many are is based on fact, not an unfair belief or stereotype. (such as saying all guys with a user name of fixed in their name have actually been neutered).

We will always have differences, if we can't poke fun in jest (and also appreciate our own and each others cultural differences), then what is the point?
 
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