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Mandatory education at 3 years age
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The only thing I get from re-reading this thread is that everyone is more worried about money than letting children be children.
Everyone should be a production machine so we stay ahead of China and all that. Who cares about people being people; their parents are bad and stuff.
Everyone should be a production machine so we stay ahead of China and all that. Who cares about people being people; their parents are bad and stuff.
Then you are infering way to many things.
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This link goes into detail, and while the distribution is mixed, the rich families have less in loans (which of course makes sense as they have no need to take on the debt).
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/pe...ts-have-highest-student-loan-debt-f2D11723568
However, Franklin's comment: "(Hint: it's children of rich parents who must attend a very expensive, elite school)" shows his bias more than anything. In the West, there is less pressure to attend private school. In the Midwest and Eastern US, there is much more pressure to attend these "elite" schools. My wife went to college in Utah, and her school's program was ranked in the top 10, and #1 west of the Mississippi. But she had colleagues look down on her for going to a public university. It is just how a lot of areas are. Part of this is public university options in many states are not nearly as good as the private schools. As someone who chose to go to an elite school, I can tell you what the burden of having high student loans can cause, but I can tell you that top employers generally only hire grads from these schools as well. I can also tell you that many of my classmates did not come from rich families, and like me, paid for their entire education.
If you go to college in Utah and stay in Utah, going to a state school is a great option. However, depending on your field, going to one of these "elite" schools is almost mandatory if you want to work for a top employer.
Like that's even possible.
Good to see you're still open minded about what others think and perceive.
You are clearly assuming that is what everyone thinks. Does money play a part? Absolutely. But you tried to paint with a broad brush what we must all think based on the direction 1 convo went.
It's not that simple but glad to see you never change. But I will remember how open minded I am next time I ask others to explain something to me like I did in the finance thread. Cheers!
Yes, I was painting with a broad brush about what I got out of this thread. That's what I said originally.
So, you have to invest in a private education to make the highest salaries, but if you are willing to make a lower salary, you can invest less.
Son#2 wants to be an elementary school teacher and do some writing on the side. We have not encouraged him to go to a private school.
And I'm saying the there is more to it than that, which you now admitted. When I see people hitting others based on their own assumptions I generally speak up.
I'm sorry if it offended you. Didn't mean it that way.
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Of course, private universities are not a one size fits all. But franklin indicated they are only for rich people, which is entirely untrue.
And by the way, there are some great loan forgiveness programs for teachers (make payments for only 7-10 years and the rest is forgiven). With the way the repayments are based on 10% of income above the poverty level, a teacher could go to a top school and pay very little in student loans over the repayment period. Getting high quality teachers is a great reason for these programs.
Slightly off topic-my cousin is going to be a surgeon (and make roughly 500k), but with his residency and a few years in a nonprofit hospital, the lionshare of his loans are forgiven. The loan forgiveness programs make a lot of sense, but there should be tweaks.
Your hard on for me is flattering.
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It was for your mom actually.
Like all my friends growing up.
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That is cute you think you had friends.
Why don't you break this down for us. For example, do you believe that inter-faith families lead to inadequate parenting? Do you believe that inter-race families lead to inadequate parenting? Do you believe that same gender families lead to inadequate parenting?
Yeah for real. The later explanation that there is some good and some bad on that list doesn't explain, at all, how it leads to inadequate parenting. It was a pretty shocking post that hasn't gotten a lot of attention.
Fair enough. That list was supposed to be things that have changed the dynamic of the traditional family. They change it by the very nature of the viewpoints and experiences they bring. Viewpoints that were not as mixed previously.
Things I think bring it down are the increase of ingle parents, men (or women) abandoning their kids, the greater social acceptance of cheating, the rise in a loss of spirituality and substituting tech for parenting among other things.
Things that change the dynamic of traditional families in a good way are Inter race families, inter Faith families and same gender families among other things.
I'm sure that another dozen areas on each side can be used. As well as dozens of exceptions. Such as that awesome single mother.
Over all I see the role/importance of the family going down hill and that's bad for parenting.
That help?