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1. d4 Nf6
2. f4 g6
3. Nf3 Bg7
4. e3 d6
5. Bd3
 
Enes CanTear You Apart said:
Yeah, time flies indeed. I was newly learning chess when Carlsen became famous. Kasparov along with Fischer were my idols, so obviously, I couldn't believe the first time I heard that a 13 year old kid managed to get a draw against Kasparov. In fact I rejected to believe it until I saw the game on a science magazine. And much later, I watched the videos about it. It's almost like a movie scene and Kasparov's face is definitely worth to see when he accepted that he couldn't beat the kid. Actually it was him that could barely get the draw from the game.

No doubt that Carlsen will be one of the bests ever if he can keep staying at the top for a decent period of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjEmquJhSas
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Awesome video, thanks for posting.

But this kind of thing makes me think of Bobby Fischer. If he hadn't been mentally unstable imagine where he could have gone in chess. He just saw the game in ways no one really has before or since. I am in no way knocking Carlsen or Kasparov (I love to watch both of them play), but Fischer's games were masterfully chaotic in ways that other players just could not comprehend. Then again, if he hadn't been mentally unstable then maybe he wouldn't have had the ability he did. He was such an enigma.

I think Carlsen will eventually prove to be one of, if not the absolute best player to ever play the game.
 
LogGrad98 vs. One Brow



1. Nf3 e6
2. g3 Nc6
3. Bg2 Be7
4. d4 f5
5. b3 Nf6
6. Bb2 0-0
7. c4 b6
8. d5 exd5
9. cxd5 Nb4
10. a3 Na6
11. Nd4 Bb7
12. Nxf5 Nc5
13. 0-0 d6
14. b4 Bc1
15. Nd4 Nb2
16. Nc3 Qe8
17. Nc3-b5 Bd1
18. Rc1 Rf7
19. Rc2 a6
20. Nc3 Bd7
21. Re1 Rc8
22. e4 c5
23. dxc6 e.p. Bxc6
 


1. Nf3 e6
2. g3 Nc6
3. Bg2 Be7
4. d4 f5
5. b3 Nf6
6. Bb2 0-0
7. c4 b6
8. d5 exd5
9. cxd5 Nb4
10. a3 Na6
11. Nd4 Bb7
12. Nxf5 Nc5
13. 0-0 d6
14. b4 Bc1
15. Nd4 Nb2
16. Nc3 Qe8
17. Nc3-b5 Bd1
18. Rc1 Rf7
19. Rc2 a6
20. Nc3 Bd7
21. Re1 Rc8
22. e4 c5
23. dxc6 e.p. Bxc6
24. Nxc6
 
Jonah vs. One Brow




1. e4 e6
2. d4 d5
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Be7
5. e5 Nd7
6. Bxe7 Qxe7
7. Qd2 c5
8. Nb5 Nc6
9. Nd6+ Kd8
10. dc Nd7
11. Qa5+


Don't worry about generating the diagrams too much. It's pretty easy for us.
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Thanks, it's appreciated. I'll still try to do diagrams in the evenings.
 
LG98 vs. Jonah



1. d4 Nf6
2. f4 g6
3. Nf3 Bg7
4. e3 d6
5. Bd3 0-0

Note: Log, in this diagram there should be a pawn at d6. I'll try to do diagrams in the evenings.
 
LogGrad98 said:


1. Nf3 e6
2. g3 Nc6
3. Bg2 Be7
4. d4 f5
5. b3 Nf6
6. Bb2 0-0
7. c4 b6
8. d5 exd5
9. cxd5 Nb4
10. a3 Na6
11. Nd4 Bb7
12. Nxf5 Nc5
13. 0-0 d6
14. b4 Bc1
15. Nd4 Nb2
16. Nc3 Qe8
17. Nc3-b5 Bd1
18. Rc1 Rf7
19. Rc2 a6
20. Nc3 Bd7
21. Re1 Rc8
22. e4 c5
23. dxc6 e.p. Bxc6
24. Nxc6
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Resigns.

I completely miscalculated that last sequence.
 
Jonah vs. One Brow



1. e4 e6
2. d4 d5
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Be7
5. e5 Nd7
6. Bxe7 Qxe7
7. Qd2 c5
8. Nb5 Nc6
9. Nd6+ Kd8
10. dc Nd7
11. Qa5+ b6
 
LogGrad98 said:
Awesome video, thanks for posting.

But this kind of thing makes me think of Bobby Fischer. If he hadn't been mentally unstable imagine where he could have gone in chess. He just saw the game in ways no one really has before or since. I am in no way knocking Carlsen or Kasparov (I love to watch both of them play), but Fischer's games were masterfully chaotic in ways that other players just could not comprehend. Then again, if he hadn't been mentally unstable then maybe he wouldn't have had the ability he did. He was such an enigma.

I think Carlsen will eventually prove to be one of, if not the absolute best player to ever play the game.
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Totally agreed, Fischer's play was absolutely the strongest of his era and the time before him. He totally dominated mighty Russians who always had the strongest chess tradition and he's done that without even having enough competition in his homeland. And after him, only a few of chess players came close to his level of play, such as Kasparov and very few others. In fact to many people, only Kasparov would be on the truly same level with Fischer and that is with the fact that Kasparov had a huge advantage over Fischer regarding the chess literature they had in their hands and could study.

There are also some late era studies, even though they are not perfectly reliable, that suggest that Fischer had the best scores among all the best chess players including Kasparov on computer analyses of their games that evaluate their moves and their statistics such as how many times they could find and played the best or strongest moves etc. That results make you wonder if he had in fact at least a semi-autistic condition or something similar that caused his brain to be able to see the game like no one could.

But at the end, it's indeed a dilemma, whether he was such an unmatched chess genius because of his unstable mind or he couldn't become what he could become because of his unstable mind.
 
I love Jonah's game, and I think he's a very interesting player. Also, I think I'm better than OB, and I can't wait to try and prove that next time we play. :p

Finally, there have been 19th century correspondence matches that took less time than Enes v. Babe's match.
 
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Jonah said:
LG98 vs. Jonah



1. d4 Nf6
2. f4 g6
3. Nf3 Bg7
4. e3 d6
5. Bd3 0-0
6. 0-0

Note: Log, in this diagram there should be a pawn at d6. I'll try to do diagrams in the evenings.
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Sorry I fixed it. Moves and diagrams in the quote above.
 
Enes CanTear You Apart said:
Totally agreed, Fischer's play was absolutely the strongest of his era and the time before him. He totally dominated mighty Russians who always had the strongest chess tradition and he's done that without even having enough competition in his homeland. And after him, only a few of chess players came close to his level of play, such as Kasparov and very few others. In fact to many people, only Kasparov would be on the truly same level with Fischer and that is with the fact that Kasparov had a huge advantage over Fischer regarding the chess literature they had in their hands and could study.

There are also some late era studies, even though they are not perfectly reliable, that suggest that Fischer had the best scores among all the best chess players including Kasparov on computer analyses of their games that evaluate their moves and their statistics such as how many times they could find and played the best or strongest moves etc. That results make you wonder if he had in fact at least a semi-autistic condition or something similar that caused his brain to be able to see the game like no one could.

But at the end, it's indeed a dilemma, whether he was such an unmatched chess genius because of his unstable mind or he couldn't become what he could become because of his unstable mind.
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Exactly. These are the same as the discussions about who is the GOAT in the basketball world. In chess we have an advantage in that we can analyze with computers, but invariably there is always some different variable that mixes up the order depending on how you program the analysis or what algorithms you use. But invariably you get some mix of Fischer, Kasparov, Karpov, Capablanca, Botvinnik, Alekhine, Lasker, and a few others, and then Carlsen gets thrown in the mix as well. It is an argument that will likely never be settled. For me the top 3 of all time, in order, are Fischer, Kasparov and Capablanca. Top 5 would include Carlsen and Karpov. Of course, as always, imho.

Here is the wiki page with a lot of these comparisons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_top_chess_players_throughout_history
 
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