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what say you about obeezy's illegal actions concerning immigration

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DutchJazzer

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i say:
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edition.cnn.com/2014/11/20/politics/obama-immigration-speech/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama will order immigration officers to deport "felons not families" as he wields executive power to shield five million undocumented immigrants in the most sweeping overhaul of the immigration system in decades.

Obama will reject claims he is offering a free pass to undocumented immigrants and argue that "the real amnesty" would be leaving a broken system as it is now, according to excerpts of his remarks released by the White House.

"Mass amnesty would be unfair. Mass deportation would be both impossible and contrary to our character. What I'm describing is accountability -- a commonsense, middle ground approach," Obama will say.

"If you meet the criteria, you can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. If you're a criminal, you'll be deported. If you plan to enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught and sent back just went up."

Obama will lay out changes he is making to immigration laws without the consent of Congress. A key element of his plan is to instruct immigration authorities to prioritize expulsion action against gang members, felons and suspected terrorists rather than law abiding undocumented parents of U.S. citizens and residents and others, senior administration officials said.

The changes will offer those who qualify the chance to stay temporarily in the country for three years, as long as they pass background checks and pay back taxes. But they will not be offered a path to eventual citizenship or be eligible for federal benefits or health care programs. And, in theory, the measures could be reversed by a future president.

Republicans are slamming Obama's use of executive authority as a mammoth presidential power grab. But aides said the President was tired of waiting to act and felt compelled to go it alone because House Republicans refuse to vote on a bill to fix the broken immigration system that cleared the Senate more than 500 days ago.

"Instead of working together to fix our broken immigration system, the President says he's acting on his own," Republican House Speaker John Boehner said in a YouTube video released before the president's speech. "The President has said before, that he's not king and he's not an emperor. But he's sure acting like one."

But Obama will say he is acting in a manner consistent with action taken by every Republican and every Democratic president in half a century.

"To those members of Congress who question my authority to make our immigration system work better, or question the wisdom of me acting where Congress has failed, I have one answer: Pass a bill."

Officials insist that Obama's moves are deeply grounded in law and constitutional precedent, despite claims by Republicans that they represent an unlawful overreach of his authority as president and his oath of office.

"The actions you see here reasonably sit within his powers," one senior administration official said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the plans before the President speaks. "I think that they are bold and they are aggressive but they are in keeping with precedent."

Congressional Republicans are weighing their response, juggling ideas that range from a government shutdown to holding up Obama's nominees in the Senate.

The most far-reaching changes in Obama's order will offer papers and work authorization to up to four million people who are undocumented parents of U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents, as long as they have lived in the U.S. for five years or longer.

Obama will also remove the upper age limit of 30 years old from a program known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) or Dreamers that allows those brought illegally to the country as children to stay, offering relief to thousands more people.

The program will cover anyone who arrived in the country before 2010 and will extend a previous two-year guarantee of relief to three years.
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Since when is choosing whom to prosecute, and whom not to prosecute, not within the scope of executive authority?
 
Goodie, this issue alone should get you to 10k posts pretty quickly, one can hope at least.
 
I dream of a day when people approach politics one issue at a time, rather than choosing sides and then faithfully supporting/condemning the side you did/didn't chose, regardless of the issue.
 
Agree, Freak.

Perhaps I am too jaded by the past 6 years of utter arrogance.. but what I heard was a man as puppet to the left in an attempt to show a willingness to bend his own beliefs in order to steal thunder from the right.

I'm sorry, it's not a party issue .. I just cannot stand to watch or listen to Obama because all I see and hear is "stop having opinions people.. I'm smarter than you so just shut up and allow me to be your daddy. No thanks.

Arrogant prick.
 
PKM said:
Agree, Freak.

Perhaps I am too jaded by the past 6 years of utter arrogance.. but what I heard was a man as puppet to the left in an attempt to show a willingness to bend his own beliefs in order to steal thunder from the right.

I'm sorry, it's not a party issue .. I just cannot stand to watch or listen to Obama because all I see and hear is "stop having opinions people.. I'm smarter than you so just shut up and allow me to be your daddy. No thanks.


signed,

Arrogant prick.
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Obama rules like a dude with a big dick tbh. #TeamBama #RollTide
 
No-Bama is the least respected president in history of the us of A.

that says something

only thing keeping him from being impeached is his (whatever the pc term is nowadays). and no it is not because his race is known for having big dicks
 
Dutch really is a fascinating creature. A Jewish Surinamese Utah Jazz fan living in Holland with an inexplicable kinship with poor white trash form the Deep South. What the ****?
 
I'm all for this action. Would be happier had it gone much further. I don't believe freedom and liberty belong to members of a club. I think our borders should be open to all but criminals.
 
DutchJazzer said:
arent borders open? but gotta jump through some hoops first
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No. Not even close to open. There are far more people trying to get here than we're allowing in legally and I believe it is a difficult and long process. Funny thing is, many industries count on immigration from Mexico, Central and South America and that need is being met by illegal immigration. Make it easy for those people to enter the U.S. legally and work here and illegal immigration would consist mostly of criminals.
 
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