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Does Quin Have The Balls?

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To bench Kanter's *** when he gets healthy so Gobert can continue to be the starter?

Will DL tell him to start to keep trade value high?

Will Quin be scared to hurt a player's feelings?
 
Quin said that all players will be held accountable on defense.

What he decides will show if he means it.
 
KD's Framily said:
Quin said that all players will be held accountable on defense.

What he decides will show if he means it.
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Nah, there are a lot of things factoring in to this decision. If Kanter starts it won't prove anything about Quin. If anything, all it proves is that Utah has higher priorities than winning now.
 
Cy said:
To bench Kanter's *** when he gets healthy so Gobert can continue to be the starter?

Will DL tell him to start to keep trade value high?

Will Quin be scared to hurt a player's feelings?
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I don't see why we need to keep Kanter's trade value high???


If anything keeping his value low means we can extend/re-sign him for cheaper in the offseason. He's a perfect scoring big off the bench for us.


Therefore benching/keeping Kanter's minute & production low this year = win/win.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I don't see why we need to keep Kanter's trade value high???


If anything keeping his value low means we can extend/re-sign him for cheaper in the offseason. He's a perfect scoring big off the bench for us.


Therefore benching/keeping Kanter's minute & production low this year = win/win.
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If Utah is looking to trade Enes by the deadline, then they need to keep his value up. Otherwise, benching Kanter could absolutely work in our favor. It could also piss him off enough that he decides to pull a Monroe. Probably not likely, but it has to be a concern.
 
freakazoid said:
If Utah is looking to trade Enes by the deadline, then they need to keep his value up. Otherwise, benching Kanter could absolutely work in our favor. It could also piss him off enough that he decides to pull a Monroe. Probably not likely, but it has to be a concern.
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Yeah but I guess the underlying basis in my post was that I don't think we'll get a good enough offer for Kanter as he is entering RFA.
 
freakazoid said:
Nah, there are a lot of things factoring in to this decision. If Kanter starts it won't prove anything about Quin. If anything, all it proves is that Utah has higher priorities than winning now.
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If you're suggesting the Jazz would be better off starting Kanter to keep his trade value up, you should consider that A) GM's are going to rely more on advanced analytics than the fact that the Jazz value Gobert more than Kanter when determining his value, and B) Kanter is going to be a restricted free agent this summer which makes it extremely unlikely the Jazz get very much for him anyways.

On the other hand, if you're suggesting the Jazz should start Kanter just to avoid a Greg Monroe situation... well, I don't think sacrificing the development of a Gobert/Favors starting frontcourt for the next few months is worth avoiding an extremely unlikely scenario. And if Kanter gets pissed off coming off the bench, waiting until next season to bring him off the bench is still going to piss him off, probably moreso.

So yeah, I'm not sure I see your point here.
 
KD's Framily said:
And if Kanter gets pissed off coming off the bench, waiting until next season to bring him off the bench is still going to piss him off, probably moreso.
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He will be signed by then, so TS if he doesn't like it. As far as keeping his trade value up by continuing to start him, you are partially correct, in that GMs aren't simply fooled by starting a player instead of benching him. However, moving him to the bench would weaken our position from a negotiation standpoint. The other, more important factor here, is that Enes is a player that can get his confidence shaken by something like being demoted. If Utah decides they are in win now mode, then you're right in that these concerns take a back seat. However, if Utah is putting the maximizing of Enes as an asset ahead of winning now, then he needs to continue starting. As I see it, there's no reason to squander assets to win now, but I guess we'll find out soon enough if the Jazz agree.
 
Yeah, I don't think the Jazz should put any priority on Kanter's "feelings." Bringing him off the bench as the primary 6 man will only inflate his stats, advanced or otherwise. Memo being a backup sure didn't cool our interest in going after him. He isn't ever going to start over Favors or Gobert so the sooner everyone can work that out, the better the team will be. There is really no upside anymore to starting Kanter.
 
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Cy said:
To bench Kanter's *** when he gets healthy so Gobert can continue to be the starter?

Will DL tell him to start to keep trade value high?

Will Quin be scared to hurt a player's feelings?
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I don't have a link, but I remember reading somewhere that Quin actually has 3 balls. I'd have probably guessed that anyway given that 1,000 yard stare of his...
 
freakazoid said:
Nah, there are a lot of things factoring in to this decision. If Kanter starts it won't prove anything about Quin. If anything, all it proves is that Utah has higher priorities than winning now.
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ONE LOVE said:
I don't see why we need to keep Kanter's trade value high???


If anything keeping his value low means we can extend/re-sign him for cheaper in the offseason. He's a perfect scoring big off the bench for us.


Therefore benching/keeping Kanter's minute & production low this year = win/win.
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freakazoid said:
If Utah is looking to trade Enes by the deadline, then they need to keep his value up. Otherwise, benching Kanter could absolutely work in our favor. It could also piss him off enough that he decides to pull a Monroe. Probably not likely, but it has to be a concern.
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Good posts and discussion.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I'm going to guess that kanter will start when he comes back, but I'm pretty much 50/50 on what the outcome will be
 
I don't give a rat's *** if Gobert starts, per se, but he should be playing 30 minutes every night at the very minimum. Probably closer to 35. If starting him assists in achieving that amount of minutes, you have to start him.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
I don't give a rat's *** if Gobert starts, per se, but he should be playing 30 minutes every night at the very minimum. Probably closer to 35. If starting him assists in achieving that amount of minutes, you have to start him.
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Because he is so tall and therefore even if it doesn't seem so, fragile, I would rather Gobert played 30/32 than 35 per night. On the point of starting, the important aspect with Gobert is that with him starting you create a solid defensive foundation for the game, you don't allow the other team, and its stars and starters, to get going. this is very helpfull.
 
veji1 said:
Because he is so tall and therefore even if it doesn't seem so, fragile, I would rather Gobert played 30/32 than 35 per night. On the point of starting, the important aspect with Gobert is that with him starting you create a solid defensive foundation for the game, you don't allow the other team, and its stars and starters, to get going. this is very helpfull.
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so tall skinny dudes should never play 35 minutes, but 32 minutes is ideal. lol
 
Do people forget how awesome Kanter was playing before he got hurt? Or is that just revisionist history on my part?
 
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