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1/10/2015: Jazz @ Rockets 6PM MST

QuinSnydersHair said:
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Ell-i-ooott.
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haha



I am a Jazz fans from China
I love the Jazz
 
dalamon said:
Seeing as you're suffering from amnesia fish, I've decided to re-quote our convo.









*fish then tells me that Kanter kept them afloat for most of the 1st quarter*

*then he says he never made any claim regarding the second quarter, even though I was 'wrong' when I made that claim*

somehow, fish is right and I'm not. ??
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I think we may both be right.
I remember kanter keeping us afloat in the first half. I went back and checked and he did a pretty good job. (Lost one point during his stretch and scored 6 points in 6 minutes and played good defense)
You say he killed us in the 2 quarter. Maybe his did kill us later In that second quarter after his good stretch in the early part of the second.
 
JJAS said:
Am I missing something here? I just don't want a legitimate fan to feel unwelcome, if this is legit here, that is. I assume you know something I don't?
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JJAS said:
OK, as always you're on the inside track here it seems.
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An obvious alt. Not that I care. But I expect all alts to check with me first before being allowed to 'act' like they are a newb. Doesn't fly.
And I am not kidding.
I am.
 
dalamon said:
so basically, you're point is that we should look past one stat to justify whether a player played well or not. Which was my point, actually-- aka we shouldn't just look at turnover numbers to show that Kanter had a good game or not. There's loads of things that need to be taken into account. Scoring. Defense. rebounding. Turnovers. Transition D. Transition O. Spacing. Passing. Etc.


Then why base Kanter's performance just off of turnovers
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I was basing it off scoring, shooting percentage, free throw percentage, turnovers, rebounding, man defense, plus minus. He played good in more aspects of the game than he played bad imo.
Williams sucked in basically every aspect of the game
 
fishonjazz said:
I think we may both be right.
I remember kanter keeping us afloat in the first half. I went back and checked and he did a pretty good job. (Lost one point during his stretch and scored 6 points in 6 minutes and played good defense)
You say he killed in the 2 quarter. Maybe his did kill us later I that second quarter after his good stretch in the early part of the second.
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I think so. All in all, not bad for a first game back at all-- and he was among probably the top 6 or so players who performed today (lots of offensive boards & putbacks). Still, his defense is paltry, and I don't really see how he fits unless he accepts like 8--9 mill per year, as a third big on this team. His defense drives me bonkers though.
 
dalamon said:
I think so. All in all, not bad for a first game back at all-- and he was among probably the top 6 or so players who performed today (lots of offensive boards & putbacks). Still, his defense is paltry, and I don't really see how he fits unless he accepts like 8--9 mill per year, as a third big on this team. His defense drives me bonkers though.
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I think it has become clear that he should be a backup big and I think that well help alot because he is such a bad passer that it will help him to play with a line up where he should shoot alot more rather than pass to a scrub
 
dalamon said:
I think so. All in all, not bad for a first game back at all-- and he was among probably the top 6 or so players who performed today (lots of offensive boards & putbacks). Still, his defense is paltry, and I don't really see how he fits unless he accepts like 8--9 mill per year, as a third big on this team. His defense drives me bonkers though.
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I actually did check the play by play and kanter came in with three minutes left in the first half and the jazz down 3. Then we were down 9 at halftime.
So that must have been the part you were referencing
 
fishonjazz said:
I think it has become clear that he should be a backup big and I think that well help alot because he is such a bad passer that it will help him to play with a line up where he should shoot alot more rather than pass to a scrub
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I agree 100%. Problem is, should we just roll with Booker as a third big, and use the Kanter money elsewhere? Like, Burke will be due for a contract too-- he's in his 2nd year. If Burke keeps improving at this rate, we might have to roll out a deal for him. And then Exum too. On top of that, we still need a really good perimeter defender. Our best defender is a 26 year old rookie with no NBA experience before this reason-- nuts.
 
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